| Windows 7: So this supposed to be impossible? |
07 Jan 2013
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#11 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |
Ahh Haa, gotcha now. No, don't try to merge the 100MB reserved after it is created, that will make a mess. | My System Specs |
| Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
07 Jan 2013
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#12 | | Windows 7 Premium 64 Bit Space Station #5 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 Ahh Haa, gotcha now. No, don't try to merge the 100MB reserved after it is created, that will make a mess.
Thank You
I have been told that you cannot install Windows 7 without it creating that extra partition. I just kept deleting and re-creating the partitions during the install process until it formated and installed without 2 partitions. When I posted this I was told that it was not possible.
I guess I will just wait and see if it causes any issues. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Master Control (20 plus year old custom build) OS Windows 7 Premium 64 Bit CPU Opteron 185 Motherboard DFI Lanparty N4 Ultra-d Memory 4 gig OCZ High Performance Dual Channel @ 500 Mhz Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5450 (Direct X11) Sound Card Creative SB Audigy Audio 2 ZS Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2208WFP (Digital) Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Saitek Eclipse II Mouse Kensington SlimBlade PSU OCZ GameXStream 850 Watt PSU. Case Antec Performance Series Cooling Working on it. Hard Drives Plextor M3 Pro 128 Gb Sata 6 SSD (Main)
Western Digital Blue 320 Gb IDE 7200 RPM Internal Daily (Backup Drive)
Western Digital 2 TB RE4 SATA 3 Gb/s 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Enterprise Hard Drive (Internal Data Drive) Internet Speed 25 Gb Other Info Got a mix of old and new hardware. Sound card hooked up to a 250 watt per channel Harman Kardon Amp to a pair of Dak 5 way old school acoustically suspended speakers. |
07 Jan 2013
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#13 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |
Actually it is possible to install Windows 7 without the 100Mb reserved if you like. As you said it's for Bit Locker which isn't in Windows 7 HP.
Here's how, whe you are installing, after all the loading files and updating stuff is done you are present with a window to select a language. At this point press Shift+F10, a cmd prompt will open.type in the following and press Enter after each line. diskpart list disk select disk n Where n is the disk you are installing to. There aren't names or drive letters so go by the size listed to select the right one. clean or clean all (clean all writes 0's to all sectors and takes about an hour per 320 GB) create partition primary list partition This should show your partition you just created, if not.. list partition select partition and select the new partition. format fs=ntfs quick active exit exit Now you can complete the install and there will be one partition, C:\ for the OS. Here's mine: | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
07 Jan 2013
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#14 | | Windows 7 Premium 64 Bit Space Station #5 |
Thanks I'll save that for next time.
Here is my desktop which I tried to do the same thing with and only have the one partition on my C:\ SSD Drive. I usually disconnect all other drives during a new install. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Master Control (20 plus year old custom build) OS Windows 7 Premium 64 Bit CPU Opteron 185 Motherboard DFI Lanparty N4 Ultra-d Memory 4 gig OCZ High Performance Dual Channel @ 500 Mhz Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5450 (Direct X11) Sound Card Creative SB Audigy Audio 2 ZS Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2208WFP (Digital) Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Saitek Eclipse II Mouse Kensington SlimBlade PSU OCZ GameXStream 850 Watt PSU. Case Antec Performance Series Cooling Working on it. Hard Drives Plextor M3 Pro 128 Gb Sata 6 SSD (Main)
Western Digital Blue 320 Gb IDE 7200 RPM Internal Daily (Backup Drive)
Western Digital 2 TB RE4 SATA 3 Gb/s 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Enterprise Hard Drive (Internal Data Drive) Internet Speed 25 Gb Other Info Got a mix of old and new hardware. Sound card hooked up to a 250 watt per channel Harman Kardon Amp to a pair of Dak 5 way old school acoustically suspended speakers. |
07 Jan 2013
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#15 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |
That looks fine mate. Don't do clean all on a SSD. Also I would recommend putting the SSD where it will be Drive 0. I forget why, but is supposed to be more efficient.
Taking all other drive off when installing to a SSD is the best practice, otherwise the installer may plop a 100MB partition on another drive. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
07 Jan 2013
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#16 | | Windows 7 Premium 64 Bit Space Station #5 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 That looks fine mate. Don't do clean all on a SSD. Also I would recommend putting the SSD where it will be Drive 0. I forget why, but is supposed to be more efficient.
Taking all other drive off when installing to a SSD is the best practice, otherwise the installer may plop a 100MB partition on another drive.
I was looking at that and I can move the SSD no problem but drive 0 is a ide. I have yet to find away around it being assigned to 0. The 500 blue is in a swap cage, and brand new rma. So it's temporary but the cables can be swapped after shutdown.
I'm workin' with a 20 year old DFI Utra-d MB .. I figured a new laptop was a pretty good backup and I ended up with a free Windows 8 pro upgrade. I'll use that on another build.
Thanks Again | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Master Control (20 plus year old custom build) OS Windows 7 Premium 64 Bit CPU Opteron 185 Motherboard DFI Lanparty N4 Ultra-d Memory 4 gig OCZ High Performance Dual Channel @ 500 Mhz Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5450 (Direct X11) Sound Card Creative SB Audigy Audio 2 ZS Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2208WFP (Digital) Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Saitek Eclipse II Mouse Kensington SlimBlade PSU OCZ GameXStream 850 Watt PSU. Case Antec Performance Series Cooling Working on it. Hard Drives Plextor M3 Pro 128 Gb Sata 6 SSD (Main)
Western Digital Blue 320 Gb IDE 7200 RPM Internal Daily (Backup Drive)
Western Digital 2 TB RE4 SATA 3 Gb/s 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Enterprise Hard Drive (Internal Data Drive) Internet Speed 25 Gb Other Info Got a mix of old and new hardware. Sound card hooked up to a 250 watt per channel Harman Kardon Amp to a pair of Dak 5 way old school acoustically suspended speakers. |
07 Jan 2013
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#17 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |

Quote: Originally Posted by Rockit 
Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker It should always create the 100mb partition if the drive is not prepartitioned. But it's a negligible issue. Unless you need BitLocker having the System Reserved partition is irrelevant.
So I can delete and merge on the machine with the 2 partitions? I was reading threw some postings here that that was not advised. That's really asking for trouble and there's no good reason to do so. You wouldn't merge it anyway. The process to delete 100mb, mark Active and then write the System boot files to C is more involved.
Do you have an issue that requires you not to have the System Reserved partition? If so use the commands Gary gave you to create your partition(s) or use Partition Wizard CD. | My System Specs | | |
07 Jan 2013
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#18 | | Windows 7 Premium 64 Bit Space Station #5 |

Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker 
Quote: Originally Posted by Rockit 
Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker It should always create the 100mb partition if the drive is not prepartitioned. But it's a negligible issue. Unless you need BitLocker having the System Reserved partition is irrelevant.
So I can delete and merge on the machine with the 2 partitions? I was reading threw some postings here that that was not advised. That's really asking for trouble and there's no good reason to do so. You wouldn't merge it anyway. The process to delete 100mb, mark Active and then write the System boot files to C is more involved.
Do you have an issue that requires you not to have the System Reserved partition? If so use the commands Gary gave you to create your partition(s) or use Partition Wizard CD.
I just prefer not having my hard drives partitioned. Never cared for it and never needed it till Win 7. I can live with it on this old desktop. I was just surprised I didn't have it on this new laptop after cleaning it up. I plan to try and install Win 7 to a SSD with UEFI enabled soon on the laptop. Take out the slow drive and put it in a backup enclosure. But not for awhile. I'm still trying to get use to which drivers and settings it needs to playback 3d movies and all this other new fancy technology.
I'm sure I'll need some help when I get to that time. Toshiba's driver downloads and support really suck. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Master Control (20 plus year old custom build) OS Windows 7 Premium 64 Bit CPU Opteron 185 Motherboard DFI Lanparty N4 Ultra-d Memory 4 gig OCZ High Performance Dual Channel @ 500 Mhz Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5450 (Direct X11) Sound Card Creative SB Audigy Audio 2 ZS Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2208WFP (Digital) Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Saitek Eclipse II Mouse Kensington SlimBlade PSU OCZ GameXStream 850 Watt PSU. Case Antec Performance Series Cooling Working on it. Hard Drives Plextor M3 Pro 128 Gb Sata 6 SSD (Main)
Western Digital Blue 320 Gb IDE 7200 RPM Internal Daily (Backup Drive)
Western Digital 2 TB RE4 SATA 3 Gb/s 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Enterprise Hard Drive (Internal Data Drive) Internet Speed 25 Gb Other Info Got a mix of old and new hardware. Sound card hooked up to a 250 watt per channel Harman Kardon Amp to a pair of Dak 5 way old school acoustically suspended speakers. |
07 Jan 2013
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#19 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
You'll really need very few drivers after a Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7.
Just follow the steps closely, do all the rounds of Updates required and then import any drivers still missing from Toshiba webpage for your model.
Most all are in the installer or via Updates. | My System Specs | | |
07 Jan 2013
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#20 | | Windows 7 Premium 64 Bit Space Station #5 |
Thanks for the link. I hope your right. Getting the Laptop, blue ray, 3d, USB 3, blue tooth, wireless signal to a TV, and all the rest of these features working right has been more difficult than I was expecting. Add in the UEFI and I'm sure it will be a adventure.
Thanks Again | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Master Control (20 plus year old custom build) OS Windows 7 Premium 64 Bit CPU Opteron 185 Motherboard DFI Lanparty N4 Ultra-d Memory 4 gig OCZ High Performance Dual Channel @ 500 Mhz Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5450 (Direct X11) Sound Card Creative SB Audigy Audio 2 ZS Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2208WFP (Digital) Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Saitek Eclipse II Mouse Kensington SlimBlade PSU OCZ GameXStream 850 Watt PSU. Case Antec Performance Series Cooling Working on it. Hard Drives Plextor M3 Pro 128 Gb Sata 6 SSD (Main)
Western Digital Blue 320 Gb IDE 7200 RPM Internal Daily (Backup Drive)
Western Digital 2 TB RE4 SATA 3 Gb/s 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Enterprise Hard Drive (Internal Data Drive) Internet Speed 25 Gb Other Info Got a mix of old and new hardware. Sound card hooked up to a 250 watt per channel Harman Kardon Amp to a pair of Dak 5 way old school acoustically suspended speakers. So this supposed to be impossible? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:53 AM. | |