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Windows 7: Move OS from System Partition (Win XP & Win 7 Dual Boot)


07 Apr 2013   #1

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 
Move OS from System Partition (Win XP & Win 7 Dual Boot)

I currently have a functioning dual-boot system. WinXP was installed first on the first partition, which is marked "System, Active, Primary." Windows 7 was installed on the second partition, also a Primary. Using EasyBDC both OSs show up correctly in the Boot menu and I can selectively boot into either OS.

Now, the question. I want to either (1) move WinXP to a new partition and only have the boot information on the System Partition or (2) create a new System Partition, leaving WinXP & the associated legacy Apps where they are.

Bottom line: I want a System Partition with only the Boot information and what ever else is required on a System Partition, no OS; a Primary Partition with WinXP as it currently is installed with the Apps, and a Primary Partition with Windows 7 and those Apps.

At this point I don't know which is easier, leaving the existing WinXP where it is and create a System partition for boot or moving the WinXP to a new partition and leaving the existing System partition alone.

I'm not very comfortable with bootmgr and ntldr ----- I sure don't want to mess up my existing dual-boot which is working correctly. And when I look in the existing hidden BOOT folder and see all those sub-folders, I keep thinking maybe I should just leave this alone.

Also, I have read the Dual-Boot WinXP & Windows 7 tutorial on the forum - but that seems more for a new install of an additional OS. I don't want to have to reinstall either existing OS. It sure looks like leaving the existing System partition alone and moving WinXP would be best.

And, I should say that I am using Marcuim Reflect to create full images of all the existing partitions.

If this is not the correct place to post this, please let me know.

Thanks

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07 Apr 2013   #2
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

What you could do is create a small 200GB primary partition. Make sure though that you do not have already more than 3 primary partitions on that disk (check in Disk Management). Give that little partition a letter and copy the bootmgr there (see tutorial). Use the letter of this little partition in lieu of C:\.

Bootmgr - Move to C:\ with EasyBCD

The bootmgr will be copied and the little partition will be activated and the XP partition will be deactivated. The original bootmgr will still remain on the XP partition, but it serves no function any more since the partition will be deactivated. Should anything ever happen to your little partition, you could reactivate the XP partition (and deactivate the little partition) and things would be as they are now.

Note: If you already have 4 primary partitions on that disk, post back and we will fix that first. Under no circumstance try to create any additional partition if you have already 4 primaries. You would end up in deep yogurt with all dynamic partitions.

And may I ask why you want to do that ??
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07 Apr 2013   #3

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

Hi - thanks for the quick reply.

First, I do already have four partitions on that HDD:

1. Disk 0 - WinXP (Active, Primary, System)
2. Disk 0 - Windows 7 (Boot, Primary, Page File, Crash Dump) - I suspect it says "Boot" because I'm currently using Windows 7 and booted into this partition)
3. Disk 0 - Data (Primary)
4. Disk 0 - Media (Logical Drive)

Second, will using EasyBCD and following the instructions move the hidden BOOT folder, bootmgr. ntldr, boot.ini, etc. all to the small partition? And does this small partition become a System partition as well as being "Active?" And, since its currently not used, can I call this new partition "S" Drive?

Will the system boot up to the same black screen menu I currently see; with WinXP Drive D, Windows 7 Drive C? And, could I then delete the Boot and NST folders, etc. from the WinXP partition?

To answer you last question, at some point I suspect I may have to reformat that old original partition and knew all the boot information was "living" there and I was afraid I would not be able to boot, even into the Windows 7 side.
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07 Apr 2013   #4
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Hmm, not good because you have 3 primaries and 1 extended (logical) partition. Do the following:

1. Download the .iso for the bootable CD of Partition Wizard from here (last box on the webpage)

2. Burn this .iso to CD - e.g. with ImgBurn

3. Boot your PC with this CD

4. Highlight the Data Partition (click on it) and click on the Partition tab above

5. Go to Modify and click on ' Set partition as logical'

6. Click on Apply (top left)

You will then be OK. You could do the same with the Windows 7 partition. No need to have any primary partitions except for the active partition.

You can chose any free letter for the little partition.

Once you copied the bootmgr, the boot sequence should be the same as now.

PS: you did not tell me why you are doing that - just curious.
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07 Apr 2013   #5

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

Will the system boot up to the same black screen menu I currently see; with WinXP Drive D, Windows 7 Drive C? And, could I then delete the Boot and NST folders, etc. from the WinXP partition?

To answer you last question, at some point I suspect I may have to reformat that old original partition and knew all the boot information was "living" there and I was afraid I would not be able to boot, even into the Windows 7 side.
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07 Apr 2013   #6
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Well, in that case I would just copy the bootmgr to the Windows 7 partition. Then you need not go thru all those procedures.
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07 Apr 2013   #7
Microsoft MVP

 

Please post back a screenshot of Disk Management - Post a Screen Capture Image - Windows 7 Forums

Tell us again exactly what you want to do and we'll give you the steps.
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07 Apr 2013   #8

Windows 7 Professional x64 Linux Mint 16
 
 

It`s a matter of choice Roxie, but whs will give you sound advice.

Primary partitions are all I ever use.


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07 Apr 2013   #9
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AddRAM View Post
It`s a matter of choice Roxie, but whs will give you sound advice.

Primary partitions are all I ever use.
That's OK if you have only 2 or 3 partitions on the disk. But there is really no need for primaries except for the active partition.

The OEMs have started that nuisance to make all partitions as primaries and usually 4 of them. That's why so many people end up with dynamic partitions if they want to create an extra partition.
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07 Apr 2013   #10

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

Sorry to make this more confusing.

I want a System Partition with the boot information; a Primary partition with the existing WinXP; a Primary partition with the existing Windows 7; and (now) the two existing Logical partitions.

I'm a little confused - the fist reply seem to indicate all that was needed was a small Primary and copy the bootmgr with EasyBCD. But, now, the last post indicates this is more complicated.

My hope was that in making individual images of the new System partition, the existing WinXP, existing Windows 7, etc. I would be able to restore individually and keeping the boot data separate made sense.

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