| Windows 7: Change IDE to AHCI in BIOS - Much better performance |
14 Oct 2009
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| | W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi 5,149 posts Hafnarfjörður IS |
Change IDE to AHCI in BIOS - Much better performance Hi all
It will mean a fresh CLEAN install of Windows I'm afraid but if you have decent SATA disks change the default setting in the BIOS from IDE to AHCI.
It really WILL improve system performance --one of my big bugbears on any discussion on performance is how the I/O subsytem (generally Disks) is forgotten - yet on most home computers the I/O subsystem is often the real cause of dreadful performance.
You'll have to do a windows CLEAN install as the system will BSOD if you just change the BIOS so you won't be able to run the installer from within Windows itself. (If you can you are very lucky).
It won't effect any Virtual machines you may have however (apart from improving disk performance).
Cheers
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I went back and forth between AHCI being on and being off on my new box that I built in July. Honestly, with almost ever task I did and with any benchmarking tool, I didn't see any real performance gain with AHCI enabled.
Unfortuantely, with AHCI on, I do have about an 8 second delay on each boot as the storage controller initializes. And since I do boot daily, and it was costing me 8 seconds which I didn't pick back up elsewhere, I just run with AHCI disabled. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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Hi there
you have to use I/O bound tasks --otherwise it won't make a huge amount of difference unless you have RAID as well.
However with LARGE photoshop files and > 1 TB size disks the I/O throughput is significantly faster than with the IDE interface - and don't forget before SSD gets cheap enough for us mere mortals to use SATA-2 will be upon us.
The other thing with AHCI is that you don't get all sorts of problems when hotplugging etc etc.
Cheers
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Whats I/O bound tasks and is it something i have to enable or install a driver for? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number self built OS Windows 7 Professional 64-bit CPU Intel E8400 3GHz Motherboard Intel DX48BT2 Memory Kingston PC3-10700H 4Gb Graphics Card XFX Radeon HD 5850 BlackEd. Sound Card Asus Xonar DG Monitor(s) Displays 2x Samsung SM-T220HD 22" Screen Resolution 1680x1050 on two monitors Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve USB Mouse Razer Diamondback 3G PSU Thermaltake ToughPower 850w Case Thermaltake Armor Cooling Scythe Mugen II Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 2 120gb 3.5" (OS)
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btw u dont need to reinstall windows. u can enable/disable ahci in reg. reboot change bios. done.
ok i thought i edit this post and let u guys know how to do so. incase anyone cares at all.
- run regedit.
- go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/System/CurrentControlSet/Services/Msahci
- right-click Start in the Name column, and then click Modify.
- In the Value data box, type 0, and then click OK.
- exit the registry editor.
This requires a reboot. so do it. enter ur BIOS Settings and enable AHCI. On boot Windows will detect the changes made and reinstall needed drivers. Requires another reboot.
Once thats done ur done. AHCI enabled
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15 Oct 2009
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| | Windows 7 Professional x64 2,055 posts The Wild West |

Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 I went back and forth between AHCI being on and being off on my new box that I built in July. Honestly, with almost ever task I did and with any benchmarking tool, I didn't see any real performance gain with AHCI enabled.
Unfortuantely, with AHCI on, I do have about an 8 second delay on each boot as the storage controller initializes. And since I do boot daily, and it was costing me 8 seconds which I didn't pick back up elsewhere, I just run with AHCI disabled. I have been advised by Patriot to use IDE while using their SSDs. They seem to think it will "cause fewer problems" I DO think AHCI will give better performance however. I have had a lot of trouble getting an answer to this. It's a good idea to do your own benchmarks. It may vary from system to system. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Keeps changing - (Custom) OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU Intel Core i7 860 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P55-UD4P Memory 4GB DDR3 Mushkin 1600Mhz @ 7-8-7-20 Graphics Card MSI GTS250 1GB DDR3 Twin Frozr Sound Card Onboard realtek Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 24" P2450 + Samsung 20" 2033 Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 and 1600 X 900 (#2 system 1440 X 900) Keyboard Gigabyte USB keyboard Mouse Microsoft wireless laser mouse 5000 PSU Corsair 750 HX Modular Case Lancool PC-K62 Cooling Cooler Master TX3 CPU cooler and 4-140mm and 1-120mm case Hard Drives Patriot Inferno 120GB SSD + 3 WD Blue 640GB drives Internet Speed 7 Mb down 1.5 up Other Info System #2: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (Freezer 7 Pro cooler) - Gigabyte 880GMA-UD2H - WD 500GB Black - 9500GT (1GB) 500W OCZ modular PSU - Antec 200 case. System #3 (LapTop) Core 2 Duo T6670 - 320GB 7200RPM HD - 4GB DDR3 RAM. |
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What is the down side to disabling AHCI? My BIOS doesn't have a setting for it I don't think.
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15 Oct 2009
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| | Windows 7 Professional x64 2,055 posts The Wild West |

Quote: Originally Posted by toughbook What is the down side to disabling AHCI? My BIOS doesn't have a setting for it I don't think.
That is one thing I have never taken the time to fully understand. Raid, Raid 0, Raid 1. I just don't get it. Whenever I have loaded an OS I have never seen or been given a choice for any Raid selections? Hell, I could be running Raid 999 for as far as I know  RAID is a Redundant array of independent disks. There are several flavors. I would just leave your BIOS alone if you're not sure what to do and things are working okay. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Keeps changing - (Custom) OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU Intel Core i7 860 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P55-UD4P Memory 4GB DDR3 Mushkin 1600Mhz @ 7-8-7-20 Graphics Card MSI GTS250 1GB DDR3 Twin Frozr Sound Card Onboard realtek Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 24" P2450 + Samsung 20" 2033 Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 and 1600 X 900 (#2 system 1440 X 900) Keyboard Gigabyte USB keyboard Mouse Microsoft wireless laser mouse 5000 PSU Corsair 750 HX Modular Case Lancool PC-K62 Cooling Cooler Master TX3 CPU cooler and 4-140mm and 1-120mm case Hard Drives Patriot Inferno 120GB SSD + 3 WD Blue 640GB drives Internet Speed 7 Mb down 1.5 up Other Info System #2: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (Freezer 7 Pro cooler) - Gigabyte 880GMA-UD2H - WD 500GB Black - 9500GT (1GB) 500W OCZ modular PSU - Antec 200 case. System #3 (LapTop) Core 2 Duo T6670 - 320GB 7200RPM HD - 4GB DDR3 RAM. Change IDE to AHCI in BIOS - Much better performance problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:24 AM. | |