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Windows 7: Downgrade Dell Win8 pro to Win7 Pro with Dell DVD

19 Sep 2013   #31

XP/7x32-x64/8x64
 
 

Just did Recovery (?) disc using the "Dell Backup and Recovery"
An invitation (nag) popped up with cold boot

This was the result. There was no "Next" nor "Finish" button/msg.

The "Select Drive" was where I chose "USB Device"
The red hilite is just an image not an "ActiveX" (?) control.

Downgrade Dell Win8 pro to Win7 Pro with Dell DVD-recovery-result.png

Thought I check in here ... just in case I don't have the correct stuff. Not ... ... yet!
1. Can the recovery disc be connected to any PC or does it leap into action if plugged in ?
2. Is a thumb-drive RD a decent archive media ?
3. Can the thumb-drive be copied to (say) CDs at a later date ?


Nervous ... you betcha ...

... NEXT... !




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20 Sep 2013   #32

Winndows 7 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by GrayGhost2 View Post
Just did Recovery (?) disc using the "Dell Backup and Recovery"
An invitation (nag) popped up with cold boot

This was the result. There was no "Next" nor "Finish" button/msg.

The "Select Drive" was where I chose "USB Device"
The red hilite is just an image not an "ActiveX" (?) control.

Attachment 286595

Thought I check in here ... just in case I don't have the correct stuff. Not ... ... yet!
1. Can the recovery disc be connected to any PC or does it leap into action if plugged in ?
2. Is a thumb-drive RD a decent archive media ?
3. Can the thumb-drive be copied to (say) CDs at a later date ?


Nervous ... you betcha ...

... NEXT... !
Hi GrayGhost2,

Thanks for your reply. It states in the image that to make a backup it would require 11.39GB of space and if you would put in 7.2 GB of memory stick then I am sure it would not work.

Kindly connect a external harddrive or a USB drive for 16 GB or more. You should be able to copy the backup file to any other location once the backup is done.

Once the backup is made then you can proceed with installing Windows 7 as well on the system. Check this video for making backups:

Creating Recovery Media with Dell Backup and Recovery

Keep us posted with the results so we can advise you further.
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20 Sep 2013   #33
Microsoft MVP

 

As it says in Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7 you can also save a Windows 7 Backup Image externally to have a secondary backup. But most likely you won't ever want to go back to the factory install so these are pro forma.
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20 Sep 2013   #34

XP/7x32-x64/8x64
 
 

At first I felt slightly embarrassed about post #32.
Glad I checked here!

Thank you SandeepP and Gregrocker for looking in
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22 Sep 2013   #35

XP/7x32-x64/8x64
 
 

I have created the recovery discs for Win8 Pro.

And will be using the Dell supplied "Reinstallation DVD Win 7 Pro x64" following gregrocker's advice at post #20
Next step in Downgrade Windows 8 Preinstalled to Windows 7 -- the preamble (in "Note" panel) implies System Repair Disc - Create in Windows 8 as required!

I understand why the Win8 Recovery Disc is a good idea but do I need a Win8 System Repair Disc - Create in Windows 8 ... considering I am downgrading to Windows 7 ?
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Then later in the "Note" panel is itemized System Image - Create in Windows 8
Do I need the "System Image" too?
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22 Sep 2013   #36

W7 X-64 W8.1 X-64 Opensuse 13.1 W2003 Server
 
 

Hi everyone

I HATE WITH A PASSION these "Recovery partitions".

If the EU commission had any bite it should instead of messing around with silly things like forcing browser choice (how hard is it to install a browser -- even my nearly 90 year old Dad can do it !!) it should ensure that ALL LAPTOPS are sold with either a copy of the OS on a DVD / USB stick or an IMAGE on a bootable external device - these days should be a USB stick -- cheap enough - and preferably another device with any special drivers on it.

However I'd always recommend if you get a new laptop is immediately you've booted up for the first time and done the set up accounts etc is to take YOUR OWN IMAGE using say ACRONIS or other decent backup program. - Commercial backup programs don't cost a fortune (typically around 50 USD) and I can assure everyone on these forums that's probably been one of the BEST SPENT 50 USD in my entire life -- the amount of time and hassle the backup / restore program has saved me over the years is beyond calculation.

Freebies like FREE MACRIUM too are available.

After making the initial backup TEST A STAND ALONE RESTORE -- at this stage if it fails you haven't lost anything as you still have the manufacturers recovery partition. Once you've got a DECENT backup / restore working you can now delete the partition and install any OS you like. You can still get RETAIL copies of Windows 7 and if you are a TechNet subscriber you can download a Windows 7 ISO. On the image also include the manufacturers recovery partition too -- if for any reason you have to return the laptop you'll have to restore these to avoid "breaking" the warranty.

Just disable any protected boot in the BIOS and enable legacy boot mode if the choice is available -- however with the DELL DVD it should boot just fine.

Keep the original Image you made before installing Windows 7 or anything

Cheers
jimbo
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22 Sep 2013   #37
Microsoft MVP

 

If that Dell Reinstallation DVD doesn't say SP1 then I would use the one for your licensed version provided in Step 1 of Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7

You would only need a Win8 System Image if you thought you might want to go back to it without reinstalling.

You do not need a Win8 Repair CD since any repair functions will be available in the Windows 7 installer.

Be sure to delete all partitions during booted Custom Install, using the Drive options show in Steps 7 and 8 of the illustrated steps for Clean Install Windows 7
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22 Sep 2013   #38

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

ME/XP/Vista/Win7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker
If that Dell Reinstallation DVD doesn't say SP1 then I would use the one for your licensed version provided in Step 1 of Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7
You can not use a Downloaded Windows 7 ISO, to use as a downgrade rights Windows 7 DVD.
You can only use a Microsoft official OEM manufacturer's Recovery DVD.
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22 Sep 2013   #39
Microsoft MVP

 

What MS Recovery disk are you referring to, Ray? Recovery disks to date have only been pressed by OEM's (if they even provide them) including the Dell Reinstallation DVD's which are also clean-copy installation DVD's with only branding and self-activation added.

Is this what all OEM's are using now to activate Pro when downgrading to Windows 7 on a Win8 PC? Is it provided up front or must be requested.

If this is indeed a typical OEM Factory Recovery disk with all of the bloatware, how would one go about Clean Reinstalling Windows 7 Pro to activate in MS Servers and not with the Factory SLP activation.
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22 Sep 2013   #40

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

ME/XP/Vista/Win7
 
 

Post 6.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by theog View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by GrayGhost2
I want to replace Win8 Pro x64 on Dell laptop with Windows 7 Pro x64
Windows 7 DVD is a "Dell" DVD supplied with the Dell laptop.
There is no Win8 DVD

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fireberd
As this apparently came with Windows 8, the Win 7 DVD I assume came from another Dell. "Legally" the OEM Operating System supplied with a new PC is only licensed for the system it was delivered with.

The Windows 7 install would be Legal ,as the downgrade rights use the OEM factory OEM-SLP activation method Product Key.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MICROSOFT
Can I downgrade the software?
Instead of using the Windows 8 Pro software, you may use one of the following earlier versions: Windows 7 Professional or Windows Vista Business.

This agreement applies to your use of the earlier versions. If the earlier version includes different components, any terms for those components in the agreement that come with the earlier version apply to your use of such components. Neither the manufacturer or installer, nor Microsoft, is obligated to supply earlier versions to you. You must obtain the earlier version separately. At any time, you may replace an earlier version with Windows 8 Pro. To enable downgrade on this computer to Windows 7, you must change the settings to boot into legacy BIOS mode. If the BIOS setting is not changed back to native UEFI mode boot prior to installing Windows 8 Pro, Windows 8 Pro will install; however, the following Windows 8 Pro functionalities will not work as they rely on UEFI mode boot:
OEM manufacturer to supply downgrade rights Vista/Windows 7 Install DVD's.

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker
What MS Recovery disk are you referring to, Ray? Recovery disks to date have only been pressed by OEM's (if they even provide them) including the Dell Reinstallation DVD's which are also clean-copy installation DVD's with only branding and self-activation added.

Is this what all OEM's are using now to activate Pro when downgrading to Windows 7 on a Win8 PC? Is it provided up front or must be requested.

If this is indeed a typical OEM Factory Recovery disk with all of the bloatware, how would one go about Clean Reinstalling Windows 7 Pro to activate in MS Servers and not with the Factory SLP activation.
1) As with all downgrade rights (to Win XP, Vista, Windows 7) the Factory SLP activation is used.
2) How the OEM make the Microsoft official OEM manufacturer's Recovery DVD is down to them.
3) You may need to order, may not, down to the OEM manufacturer.

My OEM test rig,Windows 8 specs:




Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by OEM
OS Provided Windows 8 Pro 64-bit Edition Microsoft Office Preloaded Includes a pre-loaded image of select Microsoft Office 2010 suites. Purchase an Office 2010 Product Key Card or disc to activate preloaded software on this PC. Software Drivers & Utilities, Nero Essentials S, Microsoft Office 2010 Starter, Norton Internet Security (60 days trial), Fujitsu Recovery, Windows 7 / Windows 8 Pro Twin-Pack recovery DVD


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by OEM
Compatible operating systems

Microsoft Windows 8, Windows 7 Professional 64-bit, Windows 7 Professional 32-bit, Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit, Windows 7 Home Basic (EM) 32-bit,\r\nWindows Vista, Windows XP, \r\nopenSUSE Linux
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