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Windows 7: Laptop drives/ram/possibly OS upgrade advice needed please

25 Sep 2013   #21
SandeepP

Winndows 7 32 bit
 
 

Hi b52,

It is not as confusing as it seems. You have Windows 7 Home Premium installed on the system. Now as you have taken the clone image it would be for Windows 7 Home Premium only. So once you install the clone image on the new harddrive it would be also Windows 7 Home Premium.

If you wish to have Windows 7 Ultimate you purchased from Ebay then you need to clean install it using the disc provided by them and use the COA provided by them.

As, Windows 7 Home Premium disk was provided by us and it is an OEM disk and your system has a COA for Home Premium so it doesn't ask for the Product Key. However, if you use any other disk or version of Windows like Ultimate then it would ask for the COA and you can use the COA provided by Ebay.

Once Windows 7 Ultimate is installed you need to transfer all your required data from the old harddrive and install any required software of your choice.

You cannot upgrade with the Windows 7 Ultimate install disc as you can upgrade either online or using an upgrade disc.

So, in all there are two simple choices left. One is load the clone image on the new harddrive which would have Windows 7 Home Premium. Other one is clean install using Windows 7 Ultimate using the disc and COA label provided then transfer the required files and software.

Hope this answers your queries. And if you have more then feel free to ask us.


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25 Sep 2013   #22
b52

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Thanks to both you Sandeep, and gregrocker, (and Anak for the earlier input)

I've decided to abandon the idea of upgrading to Win 7 Ultimate, I've lost 38 to sillier things in my time and don't want to waste any of my life considering it any more.

So, I have done two further backups since cloning, and am therefore inclined to clone the laptop's hard drive again (probably in a couple of days when things are quiet again temporarily and so that everything will be as up to date as possible) - a couple of hours are no problem and I can begin thinking of my next project whilst cloning. (Which you will all hear about in due course no doubt, by all means emigrate to another site temporarily - or just ignore me if you wish ).

I hope therefore that I'm right in assuming that once the clone is successfully completed I can swap the drives and upgrade the RAM, then clone back to the new drive without problems, and without having to reinstall all of the software and copy all files and folders?

And just as importantly for speed, without the necessity for a clean reinstall, however advisable it may be?

I'd be delighted to hear a resounding YES, but open to anything I may have missed.
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25 Sep 2013   #23
Anak

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 7 Home Premium 64bit Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601 - SP1
 
 

My preference would be to install the new ram first. Then check to see if your machine boots up and runs okay, then install the new drive and clone.

It is an extra step and will take a little more time, but what if the new ram doesn't play nice with your laptop?


As a side note...It would be a courtesy to notify any of your contacts before you start this upgrade. Let them know you will be down for a few hours, and if your back sooner, that's gravy on the "bangers"

You may also want to have a backup internet connection in case (heaven forbid) there's a problem with the upgrade and you can get back here for further advice.
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25 Sep 2013   #24
SandeepP

Winndows 7 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by b52 View Post
Thanks to both you Sandeep, and gregrocker, (and Anak for the earlier input)

I've decided to abandon the idea of upgrading to Win 7 Ultimate, I've lost 38 to sillier things in my time and don't want to waste any of my life considering it any more.

So, I have done two further backups since cloning, and am therefore inclined to clone the laptop's hard drive again (probably in a couple of days when things are quiet again temporarily and so that everything will be as up to date as possible) - a couple of hours are no problem and I can begin thinking of my next project whilst cloning. (Which you will all hear about in due course no doubt, by all means emigrate to another site temporarily - or just ignore me if you wish ).

I hope therefore that I'm right in assuming that once the clone is successfully completed I can swap the drives and upgrade the RAM, then clone back to the new drive without problems, and without having to reinstall all of the software and copy all files and folders?

And just as importantly for speed, without the necessity for a clean reinstall, however advisable it may be?

I'd be delighted to hear a resounding YES, but open to anything I may have missed.
Hi b52,

Yes it would be a better option to leave the upgrade right now if you not sure of it. So just add the RAM as Anak suggested and then boot the system if it works perfectly then swap the drive. Once the harddrive is detected load the clone image to the new harddrive.

Once cloned image is loaded you don't have to spend anytime to load the folders or softwares on the system it would be already done.

Hope it answered your query.
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25 Sep 2013   #25
b52

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Anak View Post
My preference would be to install the new ram first. Then check to see if your machine boots up and runs okay, then install the new drive and clone.

It is an extra step and will take a little more time, but what if the new ram doesn't play nice with your laptop?


As a side note...It would be a courtesy to notify any of your contacts before you start this upgrade. Let them know you will be down for a few hours, and if your back sooner, that's gravy on the "bangers"

You may also want to have a backup internet connection in case (heaven forbid) there's a problem with the upgrade and you can get back here for further advice.
Well, it is quite a quick process to swap the RAM with this laptop, so I could just test it out first although I went to extended lengths to check that it's suitable and it is brand new - doesn't take much time though as you say.

My contacts are already braced and waiting, no problem there. Backup internet connection is though, the desktop is still sitting in its box and the only other means I have is with a cheapo (slooow) android tablet, hmm - something to think about that, curses.

I might just chance it, will have a ponder. Thanks for the fast response!
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25 Sep 2013   #26
b52

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

[QUOTE=SandeepP;2543271

Hi b52,

Yes it would be a better option to leave the upgrade right now if you not sure of it. So just add the RAM as Anak suggested and then boot the system if it works perfectly then swap the drive. Once the harddrive is detected load the clone image to the new harddrive.

Once cloned image is loaded you don't have to spend anytime to load the folders or softwares on the system it would be already done.

Hope it answered your query.[/QUOTE]

Yaaaay - thank you!
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26 Sep 2013   #27
SandeepP

Winndows 7 32 bit
 
 

[QUOTE=b52;2543278]
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SandeepP;2543271

Hi b52,

Yes it would be a better option to leave the upgrade right now if you not sure of it. So just add the RAM as Anak suggested and then boot the system if it works perfectly then swap the drive. Once the harddrive is detected load the clone image to the new harddrive.

Once cloned image is loaded you don't have to spend anytime to load the folders or softwares on the system it would be already done.

Hope it answered your query.[/QUOTE

Yaaaay - thank you!
Hi,

Great to hear that we were able to answer your queries. Please let us know once the upgrade is done and if you have any queries feel free to reach out to us.
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26 Sep 2013   #28
Anak

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 7 Home Premium 64bit Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601 - SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by b52 View Post
Well, it is quite a quick process to swap the RAM with this laptop, so I could just test it out first although I went to extended lengths to check that it's suitable and it is brand new - doesn't take much time though as you say.

My contacts are already braced and waiting, no problem there. Backup internet connection is though, the desktop is still sitting in its box and the only other means I have is with a cheapo (slooow) android tablet, hmm - something to think about that, curses.

I might just chance it, will have a ponder. Thanks for the fast response!
IMHO, Brand new ram with an older machine is always a 50/50 proposition no matter how careful one is. There are just too many permutations out in the field.

But, preparation is the key, my thoughts are with you.
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20 Nov 2013   #29
b52

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

At long last, and after some big problems with my HP printer, I'm back.

Changed the RAM modules over to 2 x 4GB - they ran like instant clockwork once I'd managed to get them to connect properly (it takes a surprising amount of shoving to get them right). The laptop also seems to run quite a lot faster - I wasn't aware that a memory upgrade would have this much effect!

So now on to the hard drive swap, in the end I decided to buy a 1TB drive, the exact equivalent of the 750GB I was going to use but a lower rpm, which I thought might suit the closer confines of a laptop better.

But when thinking about the swap, it occurred to me that I would be taking out the existing hard drive and putting in a completely empty new drive. Does this not mean that I would have no software to load the cloned copy back with? In fact, there wouldn't even be an operating system on the new drive??

So I'll ask again why exactly can't I just clone the existing drive directly to the new one, which would be put into an enclosure just for that purpose?

To me, this is the simplest way to do it, the new drive would already be populated with os, software etc etc - and in the event of a problem I would still have the original drive ready to go back in if necessary?

Will appreciate help when anyone has the time.
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20 Nov 2013   #30
gregrocker

 

You can use Windows Imaging to back up externally an image to apply to the newly installed HDD. Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup
System Image Recovery

Many here prefer free Macrium - Image your system

If you have any WD or Seagate HD's in the mix, you can use their premiium Acronis cloning app which works perfectly. The Manual is on the Download link and easy to understand: WD Acronis free cloning app
Seagate Acronis cloning free util

If you don't have a perfect install yet, then I'd invest in a Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7
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