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Windows 7 - Windows Vista Home Basic → Windows 7 (upgrade ripoff?) |
10-22-2009
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#1 | | Microsoft® Windows 7™ Ultimate |
Windows Vista Home Basic → Windows 7 (upgrade ripoff?) Hey everyone, just registered — this is my first posting.
My family just ordered a new computer from Dell recently (through a monthly payment deal with our ISP), and it's still in transit to be delivered. I just recently discovered that the OS is Windows Vista Home Basic, which apparently is non-upgradable to Windows 7. What a rip-off.
I just had some questions. What would be the best path for me to take to get Windows 7 installed on this computer? I would probably need to delete the Home Basic OS and do a clean install, right?
I'm thinking about contacting Dell and having this order canceled or refused and waiting until I can order a model with Windows 7 preinstalled, but I'm quite impatient so I'd be willing to do something that wouldn't create such a delay.
Damn, I didn't think any PCs were still being shipped with Home Basic! This sucks royally!
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion Laptop dv9000 series OS Microsoft® Windows 7™ Ultimate CPU Intel® Core 2 Duo @ 1.50 GHz Memory 2.00 GB RAM Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce Monitor(s) Displays 17" Laptop monitor Internet Speed 1.5 Mbps DSL |
10-22-2009
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by CIS Hey everyone, just registered — this is my first posting.
My family just ordered a new computer from Dell recently (through a monthly payment deal with our ISP), and it's still in transit to be delivered. I just recently discovered that the OS is Windows Vista Home Basic, which apparently is non-upgradable to Windows 7. What a rip-off.
I just had some questions. What would be the best path for me to take to get Windows 7 installed on this computer? I would probably need to delete the Home Basic OS and do a clean install, right?
I'm thinking about contacting Dell and having this order canceled or refused and waiting until I can order a model with Windows 7 preinstalled, but I'm quite impatient so I'd be willing to do something that wouldn't create such a delay.
Damn, I didn't think any PCs were still being shipped with Home Basic! This sucks royally! Welcome...glad you found us
You could buy an upgrade copy of windows 7 and perform a fresh install with that | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number tw33k OS Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) SP1 CPU Intel 3770k 4.7GHz Motherboard ASRock Fatal1ty z77 Professional Memory 8GB (2x 4GB) G-Skill 16000CL9D (2000MHz) Graphics Card Gigabyte HD 6950 (unlocked 910/1375) Sound Card On Board Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays 27" Acer B273HU (via HDMI) Screen Resolution 2048 x 1152 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 5000 Mouse Microsoft Wireless 5000 PSU Corsair AX750 Gold Case Corsair Obsidian 800DW Cooling Phanteks PH-TC14PE 2x PH-F140 & UK 3000, 7x 120mm, 2x 140m Hard Drives Crucial C300 128GB
1TB Samsung F3 SATA
1TB WD Elite External Internet Speed 5mb/s Other Info Logitech z-2300 2.1 speakers
Lamptron FC-5 v2 |
10-22-2009
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Suggest you keep that steam up and politely but firmly threaten to cancel if they don't up the upgrade to what you were "led to expect." Worth a try.
You can use the Basic as qualifying OS to upgrade to any version of Windows 7 - I suggest Premium unless you need Bitlocker.
Just be sure to make a backup image with the new Windows 7 imaging utility so you never have to reinstall both OS's. again. | My System Specs | | |
10-22-2009
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#4 | | Microsoft® Windows 7™ Ultimate |
Thanks to you both for the replies. 
Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker You can use the Basic as qualifying OS to upgrade to any version of Windows 7 - I suggest Premium unless you need Bitlocker.
Just be sure to make a backup image with the new Windows 7 imaging utility so you never have to reinstall both OS's. again. You're saying that you can upgrade to Windows 7 Premium from a Windows Vista Home Basic system? I was under the impression that Home Basic was in the same pile as XP — i.e., you can't upgrade to 7, you need to do a full clean install. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion Laptop dv9000 series OS Microsoft® Windows 7™ Ultimate CPU Intel® Core 2 Duo @ 1.50 GHz Memory 2.00 GB RAM Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce Monitor(s) Displays 17" Laptop monitor Internet Speed 1.5 Mbps DSL |
10-22-2009
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by CIS Thanks to you both for the replies. 
Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker You can use the Basic as qualifying OS to upgrade to any version of Windows 7 - I suggest Premium unless you need Bitlocker.
Just be sure to make a backup image with the new Windows 7 imaging utility so you never have to reinstall both OS's. again. You're saying that you can upgrade to Windows 7 Premium from a Windows Vista Home Basic system? I was under the impression that Home Basic was in the same pile as XP — i.e., you can't upgrade to 7, you need to do a full clean install. Yeah you can upgrade from Vista basic | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number tw33k OS Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) SP1 CPU Intel 3770k 4.7GHz Motherboard ASRock Fatal1ty z77 Professional Memory 8GB (2x 4GB) G-Skill 16000CL9D (2000MHz) Graphics Card Gigabyte HD 6950 (unlocked 910/1375) Sound Card On Board Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays 27" Acer B273HU (via HDMI) Screen Resolution 2048 x 1152 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 5000 Mouse Microsoft Wireless 5000 PSU Corsair AX750 Gold Case Corsair Obsidian 800DW Cooling Phanteks PH-TC14PE 2x PH-F140 & UK 3000, 7x 120mm, 2x 140m Hard Drives Crucial C300 128GB
1TB Samsung F3 SATA
1TB WD Elite External Internet Speed 5mb/s Other Info Logitech z-2300 2.1 speakers
Lamptron FC-5 v2 |
10-22-2009
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#6 | | Microsoft® Windows 7™ Ultimate |

Quote: Originally Posted by tw33k 
Quote: Originally Posted by CIS Thanks to you both for the replies. 
Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker You can use the Basic as qualifying OS to upgrade to any version of Windows 7 - I suggest Premium unless you need Bitlocker.
Just be sure to make a backup image with the new Windows 7 imaging utility so you never have to reinstall both OS's. again. You're saying that you can upgrade to Windows 7 Premium from a Windows Vista Home Basic system? I was under the impression that Home Basic was in the same pile as XP — i.e., you can't upgrade to 7, you need to do a full clean install. Yeah you can upgrade from Vista basic Not according to this article: Vista Home Basic: Upgrade to Windows 7 without losing your data - PC & Peripherals - Crave - CNET Asia
Here's a direct quote:
" In most Windows 7 coverage, Vista Home Basic users are left out because Microsoft does not offer a direct upgrade path to Windows 7. For this group of consumers, switching to the upcoming operating system (OS) requires a clean reinstall. However, this poses a problem. Besides the tedium of having to manually download and install drivers for the new OS, certain bundled programs such as media players or proprietary power management software are available only in the recovery CDs and cannot be downloaded.
But there is an alternative. If you upgrade Vista Home Basic to Home Premium for S$274.29 (US$197.30), you are eligible for a free copy of the Windows 7 Home Premium upgrade CD when it launches in October 22. " | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion Laptop dv9000 series OS Microsoft® Windows 7™ Ultimate CPU Intel® Core 2 Duo @ 1.50 GHz Memory 2.00 GB RAM Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce Monitor(s) Displays 17" Laptop monitor Internet Speed 1.5 Mbps DSL |
10-22-2009
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) SP1 |
Sorry...I wrote it wrong. You're right, you have to clean install from Vista Basic | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number tw33k OS Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) SP1 CPU Intel 3770k 4.7GHz Motherboard ASRock Fatal1ty z77 Professional Memory 8GB (2x 4GB) G-Skill 16000CL9D (2000MHz) Graphics Card Gigabyte HD 6950 (unlocked 910/1375) Sound Card On Board Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays 27" Acer B273HU (via HDMI) Screen Resolution 2048 x 1152 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 5000 Mouse Microsoft Wireless 5000 PSU Corsair AX750 Gold Case Corsair Obsidian 800DW Cooling Phanteks PH-TC14PE 2x PH-F140 & UK 3000, 7x 120mm, 2x 140m Hard Drives Crucial C300 128GB
1TB Samsung F3 SATA
1TB WD Elite External Internet Speed 5mb/s Other Info Logitech z-2300 2.1 speakers
Lamptron FC-5 v2 |
10-22-2009
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I thought Dell was offering free upgrades for PC's purchased between June and Oct? When you say you got it thru your ISP, did you call and order it from Dell or did the ISP get it from Dell and offer it to you? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Dimension E520 OS Windows 7 Ultimate (x86) CPU Intel 2.20 Dual Core Memory 4 GB Graphics Card nVidia 9400 GT (512 MB) Sound Card Sigmatel C Major HD Monitor(s) Displays 22" Samsung 2232 bw Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Mouse Microsoft Arc Other Info Wacom Graphire 4 (6x8) Tablet |
10-22-2009
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Hello CIS and welcome to the SevenForums.
I really don't know where all this false information is coming from. According to Microsoft, you most certainly can do an in-place upgrade from Vista Home Basic to Seven Home Basic, Home Premium or Ultimate. Seven Professional is more complicated, in-place upgrade to 7 Pro is only possible from Vista Business. ( Source)
Windows 7 upgrade installation media also allows you to do a custom (clean) install. For that you need an existing copy of Windows 95 or later; in your case the pre-installed Vista Home Basic is enough.
Clean or upgrade, for you the Seven Upgrade disc is the right choice. You just have to decide the version.
Kari
Last edited by Kari; 10-22-2009 at 05:16 AM..
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10-22-2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by CIS Thanks to you both for the replies. 
Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker You can use the Basic as qualifying OS to upgrade to any version of Windows 7 - I suggest Premium unless you need Bitlocker.
Just be sure to make a backup image with the new Windows 7 imaging utility so you never have to reinstall both OS's. again. You're saying that you can upgrade to Windows 7 Premium from a Windows Vista Home Basic system? I was under the impression that Home Basic was in the same pile as XP — i.e., you can't upgrade to 7, you need to do a full clean install. Windows 7 Upgrade Paths
Try telling them you want the Windows 7 Premium or you want them to take the machine back.
However, I'm beginning to wonder if you aren't being misquoted the specs on this machine since Home Basic is almost always put on low-resource hardware. Make them defend the machine's abiity to run Premium by providing that Upgrade and warrantee it. And even if you get that from them, don't hesitate to send it back as my Dad did with his Dell.
The one advantage to getting the upgrade is it should be a clean disk so you avoid the bloatware which people are gonna get on Windows 7 computers they buy starting today. | My System Specs | | Windows Vista Home Basic → Windows 7 (upgrade ripoff?) problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:46 PM. |  |