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Windows 7: Problem: When install Windows 7 from the flash and Bios from type UEFI

29 May 2014   #1
ahmadhassan83

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 
Problem: When install Windows 7 from the flash and Bios from type UEFI

Yesterday, I had trouble in device one of my friends

Is a new device, there it type of MB GIGABYTE Model "ga-p61a-d3".

When I tried to do I install Windows 7 via flash memory after the first screen choose your language and then show a message that the agreement does not exist any Drive.

I enter the BIOS and try disable UEFI bios or change to legacy mode but same thing. and try disable CSM also the same thing.

I got to bring windows CD and install Windows normally.

After a search today I found it to be make a flash memory with another program to working on that type of Bios.

My question is: If I make a Flash Memory by program "refuse" to work on UEFI BIOS will work on all devices or devices with this type of bios only.

And if the answer is not possible Is there a way to make it work on all devices with the old BIOS and the UEFI bios.

Notes:
I have two flash memory and making with programs " SARDU 2.0.6.5 and Win Setup_1_0_beta8"


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29 May 2014   #2
gregrocker
Microsoft MVP

 
 

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29 May 2014   #3
ahmadhassan83

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Thanks Gregrocker:
But if you read the subject matter that put it above you will find me the implementation of Step 2 and Step 3 existing linkage that you placing.

My question was Is there a way, even Flash Memory works on all kinds of Bios.

When pressed on the link in step 4 open with me and there eightforums explains the same subject, which also spoke of the above is to be the work of Flash Memory program refuse even works on the system UEFI. And also I did not find an answer to my question are will work on all devices or not.
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01 Jun 2014   #4
dperecky

win7 64bit Ult. using: XP Mode, in English or Espaņol, SUA, Bitlocker
 
 

rant on:
UEFI was an unpleasant surprise when I purchased my PC. I wrote Insyde Software- authors of UEFI, for a help manual or somesuch, and they were emphatically unresponsive.
rant off.
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01 Jun 2014   #5
gregrocker
Microsoft MVP

 
 

Using Option 1 in UEFI Bootable USB Flash Drive - Create in Windows should work on UEFI and Legacy BIOS.
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01 Jun 2014   #6
Anshad Edavana

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote:
rant on:
UEFI was an unpleasant surprise when I purchased my PC. I wrote Insyde Software- authors of UEFI, for a help manual or somesuch, and they were emphatically unresponsive.
rant off.
"Insyde" is a BIOS coder and they are not the one who implemented UEFI. "Unified UEFI forum" is the one who develops and maintains UEFI standards. It is an alliance between AMD , Intel , Apple , IBM , Microsoft etc.

Unified EFI Forum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Whether you like it or not, UEFI offers several advantages over "Legacy" BIOS ( which existed from 1970 and is a big bottleneck of today's computers ).

UEFI – Just How Important It Really Is | Hardware Secrets
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01 Jun 2014   #7
gregrocker
Microsoft MVP

 
 

We've been dealing with nothing but problems with UEFI BIOS for several years now, and the consensus of those who've been through it all is that there are not enough benefits for the paltry advantages - at least in Win7.

Apart from the installation problems which are different on every make/model and often involve a combination of BIOS settings which must be in alignment to install Win7 to UEFI, it upends the many repair regimens and workarounds which were largely developed here since beta. So by the time we had mastered the MBR, its been replaced by inflexible UEFI crapware with no such viable repairs or workarounds beyond running Startup Repair.

For this reason if there are installation problems trying UEFI I recommend to Bypass UEFI to Install WIn7 which always works and is the most fully supported here.
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01 Jun 2014   #8
dperecky

win7 64bit Ult. using: XP Mode, in English or Espaņol, SUA, Bitlocker
 
 

When I wanted to make my Win8 pc dual boot and install Win7, I called the manufacturer tech support. $35.00 or $55.00 later (don't remember the exact amount) they removed/disabled UEFI to be able to install a Win7 partition on it. Apparently this is their recommended solution when trying to create a dual-boot machine.

Another thing: It would be nice if this great MBR Bios solution was listed in my PC Specification sheet by the manufacturer. For some reason, it's like they just wanted to sneak in their 'great solution': UEFI.
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01 Jun 2014   #9
gregrocker
Microsoft MVP

 
 

UEFI is the platform for Secure Boot which was a MS marketing attempt to assure business would move in lockstep to Win8. For years in their IT Pro newsletter there was the attempt to scare business with threads of BIOS viruses (which we've never seen here) unless they migrated off of final XP into Win8 with Secure Boot.

Business took this into account considering that they must follow Best Practice Security in order to be insured against data theft or loss. Their decision was almost unanimously to ignore Secure Boot and move off of XPired into Win7 with their existing hardware. We regularly get threads from IT Pro's and they also seem to prefer MBR installs.
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01 Jun 2014   #10
Anshad Edavana

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote:

UEFI is the platform for Secure Boot which was a MS marketing attempt to assure business would move in lockstep to Win8. For years in their IT Pro newsletter there was the attempt to scare business with threads of BIOS viruses (which we've never seen here) unless they migrated off of final XP into Win8 with Secure Boot.
It is partially true that "SecureBoot" is an attempt from the part of Microsoft to lock down hardware but it is not the sole intention behind it. Bootkits/Rootkits are extremely dangerous and if your system is infected with one, a clean installation is the only guaranteed way to make sure the system is clean. None of today's security softwares are capable of detecting all the Rootkits out there. This is because they are loading at the early boot stage which grants them the ability to hide from antivirus software.

https://www.raymond.cc/blog/10-antir...idden-rootkit/


One name will talk a hundred words - "Zero Access" - ZeroAccess botnet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Once a system has been infected with the ZeroAccess rootkit it will start one of the two main botnet operations: Bitcoin mining or Click fraud. Machines involved in Bitcoin mining generate Bitcoins for their controller, the estimated worth of which was estimated at 2.7 million US dollars per year in September 2012.[9] The machines used for click fraud simulate clicks on website advertisements paid for on a pay per click basis. The estimated profit for this activity may be as high as 100,000 US dollars per day,[2][10] costing advertisers $900,000 a day in fraudulent clicks.[11] Typically, ZeroAccess infects the Master Boot Record (MBR) of the infected machine. It may alternatively infect a random driver in C:\Windows\System32\Drivers, giving it total control over the operating system[citation needed]. It also disables the Windows Security Center, removing the Security Center service, Firewall and Defender, from Windows 7.
Millions of systems are infected and you still believe this is a scare tactic ?. Do you have any idea about how many billions Rootkit authors are still making ?. Do you aware that malwares which encrypts users data uses Rootkit technology to hide from security softwares ?.

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We've been dealing with nothing but problems with UEFI BIOS for several years now, and the consensus of those who've been through it all is that there are not enough benefits for the paltry advantages - at least in Windows 7.

As of today there is not a single UEFI based Rootkit has been released. So there is nothing wrong to try UEFI if your MoBo support it.
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