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Windows 7: clone multiboot two disc win7 xp install to win7 ssd plus disk XPx64

05 Jul 2014   #11
booter123

win7 ultimate x64
 
 

Gregrocker, thanks for above. "The only change required is to remove the D drive letter in Disk Mgmt after relabeling it in its D Properties box"

I don't understand the bit about relabelling it in the D properties box. Which properties box, the one that comes up in right-click on the name in Disk Management as here? If I pick any old name and then delete it, the @D@ drive will be deleted, together with the boot table etc. Is there a special 'reserved' name it should be called? Sorry to be stupid, but I have to get this right. If you could assume my newbie status and tell me click by click what to do I would be very grateful.

Re the XP disk, will plug in when I know that the above is fixed. I already screwed the system by starting off putting the SSD into a HD slot and 'cloning' the C drive into it. I pulled the C drive and put in the SSD, and the multiboot had vanished. (From a comment above I should perhaps have created a disc image? whatever the difference is between that and a clone... ) I put the C drive into a free bay to try and see what the difference might be, and somehow after several passes looking at the drives and repairing and bootrecing I ended up with the SSD in its present configuration in the first (C) slot, a dead drive which used to be D: (XP), and luckily, an older version of the XP disk from an old rebuild.
If I can understand your instructions I think I end up with an SSD in the first drive bay, labelled C. I can then either load XP onto a second disk, which I think means wrestling with the BCD table or whatever, or try reattaching the good copy of XP that I now have on a disk, which hopefully just means putting it in a slot and relabelling it and patching another disk label into the boot loader? If you could clarify the relabelling bit of
"The only change required is to remove the D drive letter in Disk Mgmt after relabeling it in its D Properties box"

Ta




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05 Jul 2014   #12
gregrocker

 

Name it System Reserved in Properties box. Then remove drive letter in Disk Mgmt.

Are you saying in all that mumbo jumbo you want XP on the SSD, which you never said at first?

If so take a XP partition backup image with a simple app like Macrium which whs is expert in so can walk you through. Apply it to an unallocated partition you shrink from Win7 partition, without including XP MBR, track 0 or Active flag. Just the inert XP partition. You could do it all from Win 7 partition if you could plug in both drives which I thought was the point of a caddy.

Once image is applied and not Active, add XP from Win7 using Easy BCD. If it steals XP boot confirm win7 SysReserved partition is Active and run 3 Startup Repairs w reboots. Add XP again w EasyBCD if necessary
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06 Jul 2014   #13
booter123

win7 ultimate x64
 
 

Thanks for getting me this far, simple though it might be. Have renamed Data and deleted drive D; and plugged in the old disk which has a version of XP on it. The details are as below. Is it possible to reattach this as D: easily?
Thanks


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06 Jul 2014   #14
booter123

win7 ultimate x64
 
 

Easy BCD returns
.................................................................................................... .............
There is one entry in the Windows bootloader.

Default: Windows 7
Timeout: 30 seconds
EasyBCD Boot Device: C:\

Entry #1
Name: Windows 7
BCD ID: {current}
Drive: C:\
Bootloader Path: \Windows\system32\winload.exe
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06 Jul 2014   #15
booter123

win7 ultimate x64
 
 

If it helps


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06 Jul 2014   #16
gregrocker

 

If you want to add XP to a Windows Dual Boot menu rather than booting from the BIOS which is easier then add XP from the Add OS Entry tab using Automatic drive detection method.

If XP won't boot then unplug Win7 drive, use the bootrec commands given in How to Fix MBR in Windows XP and Vista to Start XP. You can then either plug back in the Win7 drive, set it to boot first in BIOS, then trigger XP using the one-time BIOS boot interrupt key; or try adding XP again from Win7 using EasyBCD.
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06 Jul 2014   #17
booter123

win7 ultimate x64
 
 

Thanks for the help. I got the backup XP disk running using your first suggestion. Then tried the damaged version in its place and diskchk got it up and running again. So my system is as original, but with an SSD in C: position.

For Newbies, could you please comment on why XP appears as on the C: drive, when in fact it is a separate disk D: (as below) When I specified D: in easyBCD instead of auto, it still showed as C: in the new BCD

Also, what did I do wrong originally? It should have been possible to copy the original HD across bit for bit to the SSD, it was the same size, so that when inserted instead of the original, it ran seamlessly. I assumed that was a clone, but either the Samsung cloner does not do what it should, or I used the wrong method.


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06 Jul 2014   #18
gregrocker

 

Please post back screenshot of Disk Mgmt.

Each OS should always see itself as C when booted. This is optimal. Always choose Auto drive letter setting when offered for cloning or imaging to assure this.

I am not familiar with Samsung cloning app but if its like their laptop bloatware it is not worth using. The best choices are in SSD - Install and Transfer the Operating System and given earlier.
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06 Jul 2014   #19
booter123

win7 ultimate x64
 
 

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Annoyingly the Win7 drive appears as F; in XP, and cannot be reset to D: but that I guess I live with that. Have to sort out the restore point problem now...

Cheers.

PS ignore kindle..


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06 Jul 2014   #20
booter123

win7 ultimate x64
 
 

The XP view of the same system


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