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Windows 7: boot menu doesn't show up - XP and Win7 dual boot

01 Nov 2009   #11

WinXP x86 & Win7 x64
 
 

It appears I've a similar problem as diznanl - Windows 7ís boot menu doesnít show up after a fresh install on a hdd with 2 partitions of WinXP on it.

A brief OS installations history of this hdd might help. Initially this hdd was dual booting WinXP x86 and Vista x64 on it. A problem occurred when I tried to ghost over both partitions to a new hdd. This caused me to remove Vista x64 and installed WinXP x64 on a new partition while retaining the original WinXP x86 on the same hdd.

I have used the bootsect.exe /nt52 ALL /force to remove Vistaís boot menu. So that leaves me with a legacy dual boot of WinXP x86 and x64.
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Fast forward a couple of months, I then decided to install and multi boot Windows 7 along with both XPs. When Windows 7ís boot menu did not pop up as expected, I tried using the command prompt in Windows 7ís DVD to run:
Bootrec.exe /fixMBR
Bootrec.exe /fixBoot

The commands ran fine but I was still getting XPís legacy boot menu without Windows 7. Next, I tried to ďReinstall the Vista BootloaderĒ using EasyBCD. It did not help either.
Interestingly, EasyBCD showed remnant settings from my previous XP-Vista dual boot. The BCD displayed 1 XP entry Ė kindly please refer to attached pic.
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Iíve verified ntldr is on XPís c: and not on some other data partition.
boot menu doesn't show up - XP and Win7 dual boot-c.jpg

Current boot.ini
boot.ini.txt

Would you guys kindly help me to resolve this issue as well please?



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01 Nov 2009   #12

Windows XP x86 / Windows 7 x64
 
 

There was no NTLDR on the Downloads&Media partition... but there WAS a bootmgr file.

I tried to set "S:" as the partition to boot from in EasyBCD, but I got a "missing NTLDR" error.

Is there a way to repair a Windows XP partition after Windows 7 is installed? I think the problem has to do with XP, not Windows 7.

Should I just try to install XP via Windows 7 over my old installation? Would that work?
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01 Nov 2009   #13
Microsoft MVP

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by posthumous View Post
It appears I've a similar problem as diznanl - Windows 7’s boot menu doesn’t show up after a fresh install on a hdd with 2 partitions of WinXP on it.

A brief OS installations history of this hdd might help. Initially this hdd was dual booting WinXP x86 and Vista x64 on it. A problem occurred when I tried to ghost over both partitions to a new hdd. This caused me to remove Vista x64 and installed WinXP x64 on a new partition while retaining the original WinXP x86 on the same hdd.

I have used the bootsect.exe /nt52 ALL /force to remove Vista’s boot menu. So that leaves me with a legacy dual boot of WinXP x86 and x64.
Attachment 34307Windows 7's on H:

Fast forward a couple of months, I then decided to install and multi boot Windows 7 along with both XPs. When Windows 7’s boot menu did not pop up as expected, I tried using the command prompt in Windows 7’s DVD to run:
Bootrec.exe /fixMBR
Bootrec.exe /fixBoot

The commands ran fine but I was still getting XP’s legacy boot menu without Windows 7. Next, I tried to “Reinstall the Vista Bootloader” using EasyBCD. It did not help either.
Interestingly, EasyBCD showed remnant settings from my previous XP-Vista dual boot. The BCD displayed 1 XP entry – kindly please refer to attached pic.
Attachment 34308

I’ve verified ntldr is on XP’s c: and not on some other data partition.
Attachment 34309

Current boot.ini
Attachment 34310

Would you guys kindly help me to resolve this issue as well please?
The automated way to try this is to boot into Windows 7 Installer Repair console and run Startup repair repeatedly.

If/when it boots up to the 7 desktop, if necessary run a repair install (which is an in-place Upgrade) so that 7 will reconfigure the boot menu and re-establish itself correctly as last installed. You will need to reactivate.

If 7 doesn't configure the boot menu correctly, use EasyBCD to post back here a screenshot of entries given along with a screenshot of your Disk Management map. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...en-forums.html
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01 Nov 2009   #14

Windows XP x86 / Windows 7 x64
 
 

So, I'm back in XP. I loaded UBCD for Windows, used a couple of the partition programs to fix it so I could boot into XP.

For some odd reason, Windows 7 wants to set my Downloads&Media drive as a boot partition!! I don't get it!

I'm booting straight into XP now, no Windows 7 bootmanager. I figured I'd try to get the bootmanager back using the Windows 7 disk and Startup Repair. Well, it just changed the boot partition to Downloads&Media again ... I got the NTLDR is Missing error.

So, I used the UBCD to change the Downloads&Media to a NON-bootable partition.

And I loaded in to XP again, no problems.

How do I get my Windows 7 back, along with a solid way to get into XP?
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01 Nov 2009   #15
Microsoft MVP

 

What I would do at this point is unplug all other drives except the XP/Windows 7 dual boot drive, boot from the Windows 7 installer and reinstall Windows 7 to it's (formatted) partition to re=establish the dual boot correctly without any chance of the bootloader being derailed to another drive.

IF you can use Windows 7 startup repair to get into 7 then you only need to run a repair install (upgrade over installation) which will also reconfigure the boot correctly with those other drives unplugged.

There have been a number of these cases and they underline the importance of unplugging all other drives except where you want to install Windows 7 or dual boot with another OS.
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01 Nov 2009   #16

Windows XP x86 / Windows 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
What I would do at this point is unplug all other drives except the XP/Windows 7 dual boot drive, boot from the Windows 7 installer and reinstall Windows 7 to re=establish the dual boot correctly without any chance of the bootloader being derailed to another drive.

IF you can use Windows 7 startup repair to get into 7 then you only need to run a repair install (upgrade over installation) which will also reconfigure the boot correctly with those other drives unplugged.
I hear you ... that sounds like a logical plan. I just want to know why Windows 7 is changing the XP boot partition... it's just WEIRD. It doesn't even give me an option to NOT do this. Why is it messing with XP?

In any case, I have Windows 7 still installed. Is there a way to re-apply the bootmanager for Windows 7 without having to reinstall?
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01 Nov 2009   #17
Microsoft MVP

 

Windows 7 was looking for partition marked active.

Mark Windows 7 active using XP disk management or Partition Wizard disk. Unplug other drives and Run startup repair repeatedly from Windows 7 installer repair console.
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01 Nov 2009   #18

Windows XP x86 / Windows 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Windows 7 was looking for partition marked active.

Mark Windows 7 active using XP disk management or Partition Wizard disk. Unplug other drives and Run startup repair repeatedly from Windows 7 installer repair console.
I marked the Windows 7 as active...

I shutdown and disconnected the other drives

I loaded the Windows 7 disk and it repaired the Windows 7 partition/boot

I loaded EasyBCD and added Windows XP

The bootloader showed XP and Windows 7 (recovered)

I loaded XP ... worked fine

I loaded Windows 7 ... worked fine

Shutdown and reconnected the other drives

Tested both XP and Windows 7 again ... success.

Thank you gregrocker and SIW2 for all the help! Kudos / reputation points have been left for you!
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04 Nov 2009   #19

WinXP x86 & Win7 x64
 
 

gregrocker's suggestion worked for me too!

firstly i removed active from all data partitions, but did not set Windows 7's partition as active.
next, i formatted Windows 7's partition and reinstalled it.

installation then rebooted and i was greeted by Windows 7's boot loader:
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if i were to choose "Earlier Version of Windows" it would take me to XP's boot loader:
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is there a way i can intergrate all three OS into one boot loader directly? meaning having Windows 7, Old XP and New XP appear together on the boot loader.
i tried messing about with EasyBCD 2.0 beta but couldn't get anywhere with it.

Thank you gregrocker!


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