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Windows 7: Query on a clone

18 Aug 2014   #11

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You forgot to mark the new 1.46GB partition as ACTIVE!! After cloning detach source drive and boot. Actually do a startup repair... to fix the bootmenu. If it boots successfully you can attach old drive again. Mark old 1.46GB partition as INACTIVE.

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4 Weeks Ago   #12

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An update
Kaktussoft you have just made a comment on what I found out I was missing as I didn't check the mail for replies until just now (and could have saved myself some sweat working on it).

The clone went for about three and one half hours and was showing up with different letters for the partitions.

This I thought nothing of until I installed the new drive and nothing.... BIOS saw it but no boot.

So went back to installing the old drive back and using the USB gadget tried to set the labels right with Partition Wizard - still no go when the new drive put back in.

So out of interest I looked at the options in PW and saw - Set as active now this rang a loud bell as I remember Wolfgang's tutorial for aligning SSD's and it mentioning making the drive active.

Clicked on each of the partitions and marked each for set active with PW and ran those commands.

Reinstalled the new drive and it immediately went to loading Windows. Cutting a long process short it ran a lengthy repair process which has now made the drive boot the machine.
The only flaw is that on power up it stops and asks me to press CTRL ALT DEL
- doing this immediately starts loading Windows.

So lesson learnt and thanks to everyone who looked in as I was on death row if the drive messed up

Summarising the clone can be done easily using the partition drag drop method in Macrium as long as the partitions are set as active before the clone or after as I did. I might write a little something up if someone could tell me if I should have or could have marked the whole drive as active before I started the cloning or whether it is best left to afterwards.
However there are still some issues on power up that I need to sort out so I had better get on with it.
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4 Weeks Ago   #13

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Further update sorted the problem with a start up repair I think I ran a malware scan that baulked something.

Anyway boot time is now down from 1 minute 40 secs to 50 secs so I think the thing has been nailed

PS Forgot the new snip and I am now wondering how I an utilize that unallocated space to C: if possible.


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4 Weeks Ago   #14

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Why did you mark the 10.93 partition ACTIVE? The 1.48GB partition was ACTIVE when you started.

I don't care what partition is ACTIVE (so holds the bootmgr and bootmenu). Normally that partition is 100MB and label "system reserved". I think reset to factory settings isn't possible anymore... or does it work (just try to do it, but DON'T actually start the restore!)
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4 Weeks Ago   #15

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICit2lol View Post
Further update sorted the problem with a start up repair I think I ran a malware scan that baulked something.

Anyway boot time is now down from 1 minute 40 secs to 50 secs so I think the thing has been nailed

PS Forgot the new snip and I am now wondering how I an utilize that unallocated space to C: if possible.
Using PW you can move the 10.83 partition to the right. After that you can extend C (in diskmanagment or in PW)
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4 Weeks Ago   #16
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4 Weeks Ago   #17

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
Why did you mark the 10.93 partition ACTIVE? The 1.48GB partition was ACTIVE when you started.

I don't care what partition is ACTIVE (so holds the bootmgr and bootmenu). Normally that partition is 100MB and label "system reserved". I think reset to factory settings isn't possible anymore... or does it work (just try to do it, but DON'T actually start the restore!)
Ok well I am not really that cluey when it comes to dealing with this sort of stuff and I did say I did mark the partitions as active only because I was running out of ideas and hadn't seen your post.

That was because the clone was done overnight and I had not checked my mail on my machine before getting the drive in and trying it.

In my first posts I did ask why the first partition was so large because as you say it is usually a few MB's and that is known only to whoever first installed Windows on a very unusual 600GB drive. If you look at posts #1 & 4 you will see what I was greeted with. Now cloning in the past I have only had to use drives of similar sizes or small to large and when those popped up it took me by surprise as I had originally bought a 500GB drive for the job and of course it would not clone so hence me buying the 1TB to circumvent that problem.

The factory restore I can always reinstall the old drive I suppose but as long as this drive is working there is no desperate need for it. The other suggestion of moving the third partition to the right I will do anyway to give Lynne the max C: space.

All in all a bit of a learning curve for me and hopefully helpful for anyone stuck with my situation in the future.

Oh and thanks Wolfgang I will have a look at that video before I do anything as I am still wary of doing anything without some guidance now.

However thanks to everyone again for helping me out of a spot.
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4 Weeks Ago   #18

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Wolfgang I have just got round to watching that video but your link takes me to the PW site but clicking on extending partition is asking me to use JavaScript for camtasia??

I viewed a YouTube for resizing and moving the partition would that be much the same because the version on that video was PW 5.0/
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4 Weeks Ago   #19
whs
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Get the .iso for the bopotable PW ( last box on the website). Burn that to CD and boot the system with that CD. Then follow the tutorial I linked earlier.
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4 Weeks Ago   #20

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Get the .iso for the bopotable PW ( last box on the website). Burn that to CD and boot the system with that CD. Then follow the tutorial I linked earlier.
Ok Wolfgang I will do that as I have never used that boot option before and having heard a bit about it just lately was curious.
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