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Windows 7: Will a Recovery disc from another laptop work on mine ?

20 Oct 2014   #11
gregrocker

 

If you read the Special Note to HP Owners at the end of Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7 it explains how to test if the HP Tools partition's Bootable Diagnostics and Recovery partition still run.

If Performing an HP system recovery (Windows 7) | HP® Support will still run then I'd try it to see if there is a Minimal Recovery option given when you run it, as this is nearly the same as Clean Reinstall but includes factory drivers and essential system software. If not you can delete Recovery.

If Diagnostics still runs and gives a good report then I would save the HP Tools Partition but delete all other partitions, create a new one in their place during reinstall using the Drive Options pictured in Steps 7 and 8 of Clean Install Windows 7


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21 Oct 2014   #12
SaibotXI

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Yes, I have tried that method and it does not work, and should not work since I formatted my recovery (Yes, I know I was stupid) but well mistakes happen. So, currently the F11 method does not work. I tried again just now to re-confirm it.

Also, I followed ur method to re-install my Windows 7 about 3 weeks ago, and i slip-streamed the updates; however, it still showed the updated after windows installation and it downloaded and updated which took hours.

One another thing is the UEFI installation of Windows 7. I dont really know what UEFI does and how useful it is, but I've heard that it's better to have. My laptop did initially have the UEFI, but now I dont know. It does't show anything in the disk management though.
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21 Oct 2014   #13
gregrocker

 

Please post back a screenshot of maximized Disk Mgmt.
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24 Oct 2014   #14
SaibotXI

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Please note that the recovery partition isnt the original HP one because i formatted it, and created a system backup/image on that.
And one more thing, why am I seeing two different partitions for each drive ?


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24 Oct 2014   #15
gregrocker

 

The problem is that you converted your HD to Dynamic which is only meant to be used to span a partition across multiple HD's. Apparently you didn't see the warning message. You can have only four primary partitions, or 3 Primary and unlimited Logical partitions.

The solution to solve this non-destructively is to boot free Partition Wizard CD version 4.2 from Option One of Convert a Dynamic Disk to a Basic Disk

Download the ISO, rightclick to burn it to CD using Windows Image Burner, or use ImgBurn.

Boot CD. You will need to delete the extra partition(s) you created which tipped it to convert to Dynamic before it will convert back to Basic, so back up any files first from within Win7 if it will boot, or Copy & Paste - in Windows Recovery Console to external USB. I would delete all partitions between C and HP Tools which you should keep for bootable hardware diagnostics on F12 key menu.

Then follow these video steps: How to convert dynamic disk to basic disk with Partition Wizard?

If Win7 will not start and you confirm it's been converted successfully, then confirm that the 100mb System Reserved partition (preferred if you have it) or C is Set Active partition - Partition Wizard Video Help, then run Startup Repair - Run up to 3 Separate Times.

After conversion if you want help adding a partition post back a screenshot of your maximized Disk Mgmt drive map with listings, using the Snipping Tool in Start Menu, attached using paper clip in Reply Box.

I would create a fourth Logical partition after C for all storage, or add as many adjacent Logical partitions as you wish. Create Logical Partition. There is no good reason to have a bunch of partitions as opposed to one Storage partition, though.
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23 Feb 2015   #16
SaibotXI

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Sorry for the long months of delay, I've been really busy with my University.

Please see the screenshot i attached, and I completely formatted my HDD. Then, I installed Windows 7 using the method here: UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) - Install Windows 7 with

I'm not getting the MSR partition as mentioned in that post. Also, from my laptop's driver page i installed the UEFI Environment driver which created the HP_Tools partition again itself. I want a new partition named "Program" like i had before, but i'm afraid it might convert the disk to dynamic again; is it safe to do so ?

Thanks.


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23 Feb 2015   #17
gregrocker

 

The HP Tools partition would not have recreated itself during a Clean Reinstall, only Factory Recovery or manually could have restored it. Do the HP Diagnostics work from the ESC key at boot? If not then you can delete it because it serves no purpose. This is explained further in the Special Note for HP Owners at the end of Clean Reinstall Windows 7 which helps determine what partitions to keep during a Clean Reinstall. Is it possible you didn't delete it during the install?

MSR partition is hidden.

You can shrink C to create as many Logical data partitions as you want: Partition Wizard Resize Partition - Video Help.
Partition Wizard Create Partition - Video Help
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23 Feb 2015   #18
SaibotXI

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

I completely formatted my HDD using the clean command from CMD at boot. After I installed Windows, I was installing the drivers, and there was a driver for UEFI Environment of which I'm attaching the screenshot. Once, I installed that driver it asked me if I want to create a partition for HP_Tools. I clicked yes and it made the partition, and yes i tried it after boot up by pressing F2 and it works just fine.

Also, what's the difference between a logical partition and a normal primary partition ? which one would be better ? and I can I just shrink Volume C using disk mgmt because I'm already familiar with that.


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23 Feb 2015   #19
gregrocker

 

I asked if there were diagnostics on the ESC menu, and whether they would boot and fully run or not. Is F2 the specific key for Diagnostics and you are saying they boot and run fully?

How much other bloatware did you reimport from the HP website, defeating the purpose of a Clean Reinstall? This is discussed in Clean Reinstall Windows 7 so you understand how to judge. I've never heard of UEFI environment but if it allows replacing a functioning bootable diagnostics then that is worth it.

You can have four total Primary partitions OR 3 Primary and unlimited Logical partitions. A partition must be Primary to boot an OS, Logical are therefore only for data. HP Tools needs to remain Primary to be bootable, as does System Reserved. I would shrink C to make as many other partitions as you want and create them Logical.
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24 Feb 2015   #20
SaibotXI

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Yes, F2's the button for Diagnostics and it runs completely fine at boot, I tried it.

I'm attaching the screenshot of the drivers i downloaded from HP because im not sure which ones are really bloatware and which are actual drivers for the hardware. Is it fine if I remove the IDT Audio driver ? will it affect sound quality ? And HP OSD, HP PM, and HP QL are the three top most unneeded bloatwares, but I guess i like bloatwares :P
Anyways, let me know about your suggestions.

Okay Thanks. I'll create a logical partition for Programs now. I also, want to create a logical partition and put the system image there, just in case of later restore purposes. Is that fine too ?


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