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Windows 7: Old default location 'C:\Users\(existing user account)recreated again

13 Nov 2014   #21
Kari

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by townsbg View Post
I believe that it is the general consensus not to mess with these folders. The only files I would be willing to move would be personal videos, pics and docs and even that must be done with care. That is all that I would recommend for others to move or you could end up with system, program, or profile stability issues depending upon what is changed by the user. Most of the modern OSs have very few files that can be safely moved or changed. If you or anyone else wishes to proceed with these actions do so at your own risk.
Since first beta versions of Vista I have used Sysprep to relocate the whole main profile folder Users to another drive to save space on C: drive, both at home and professionally. I have not had a single issue because of this. The method is fool proof and reversible, designed and made possible by Microsoft.

User Profiles - Create and Move During Windows 7 Installation

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13 Nov 2014   #22
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

I have also moved my user profile to a different partition since Vista. Kari's sysprep method is the better way since it sets everything up before installing Windows is complete.

Other than the creation of a System Drive subset version of my profile, I have not had any issues. I don't believe there is a consensus either way - some people just get nervous.

There is a way to move one user profile or move all user profiles (and set the creation of new user profiles to the new location). It sounds as though you only moved your profile using the tutorial. If that is correct then you want Default on the System Drive (C:\Users\Default\). You can copy Default to C:, rename Default on D:\ to Default-D, and restart your system. Try creating a new Admin account.

If that is not correct (you changed the location for all users) then Default should be on that partition (D:\ for example).

This is not a suggestion, more of a warning:
When this issue happened to me the first few times, I renamed C:\Users\Dad to C:\Users\Dad-C and restarted ... I think the message was the same or similar to what you're getting when you try to create a new profile. Another oddity was a temp profile was created. I had to log in using my secondary Admin account to clean up that mess. That's why it's important to create a 2nd admin account. I THINK I deleted both the temp profile and the renamed profile and looked in the registry for any keys with the strings "c:\Users", "%SYSTEMDRIVE%\Users", "\Users", "Dad-C", and other possible matches. I'm sorry that it is a hunt instead of a "go to this key" but I didn't write it down.

If there is any consensus, I think it's that the extraneous folders on C:\ don't matter and can be left there.

Where the \Users\Default folder resides depends on the method to move User Profiles. It wouldn't hurt to copy D:\Users\Default to c:\Users - the contents are minimal and it might solve the error messsage when you try to create a new user account.

Bill
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13 Nov 2014   #23
Hadramawt

Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Slartybart View Post

Where the \Users\Default folder resides depends on the method to move User Profiles. It wouldn't hurt to copy D:\Users\Default to c:\Users - the contents are minimal and it might solve the error messsage when you try to create a new user account.

Bill
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Thank you all of you very much,
I must really highly appreciate your time spending to reply to me.

I really realized the solution of that error 'The User Profile Service failed the logon. User profile cannot be loaded.'
I only wanted to confirm for 'UsernameIssues' I now understood that When I create a new profile, that Default user profile is copied to the new profile'

Thus, I told my experience Conclusion:: Since the default's profile folder is now copied on new location, and deleted from the old location 'C:\Users'. However, the old location of the default account's profile folder is still in the registry. As a result, whenever a newly account was created, then that error would be shown since system wanted to copy Default user profile to the new account, but it didn't find the default's folder in the Windows explore, as opposed to its location in the registry.(In other words, default's profile folder is only copied on the 'D:\users', however, in the registry is still 'C:\users\default'.). However, when I edited the registry to 'D:\users\default', then no error was there when creating a new account. Thus, what 'UsernameIssues' said 'he User Profile Service failed the logon. User profile cannot be loaded.'' is completely correct.

My problem is now only with those three programs which saved information of theirs in that the old location which was no existed.

Have you looked at my file ''ListCuser.txt:' ' I have uploaded to my Onedrive? Have you had a look at my details posted one day ago. here
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13 Nov 2014   #24
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Hadramawt View Post
...do you think the number of NTUSER.DAT' indicates how many new users were created?
In my screen shot, there are three:
NTUSER.DAT
NTUSER.DAT.LOG1
NTUSER.DAT.LOG2
Each of them is dated with a different date.
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I posted a reply on your question, but it seems to have vanished :-(

In the Default folder: the number of files with NTUSER.DAT in their name is not related to the number of new users that have been created on a computer. I don't know the function of the two that have LOG in their name. They don't seem to be needed.

I've not moved the entire Users folder, so I'll let those that have continue to speak on that.
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14 Nov 2014   #25
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Hadramawt View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Slartybart View Post

Where the \Users\Default folder resides depends on the method to move User Profiles. It wouldn't hurt to copy D:\Users\Default to c:\Users - the contents are minimal and it might solve the error messsage when you try to create a new user account.

Bill
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Thank you all of you very much,
I must really highly appreciate your time spending to reply to me.
.....
My problem is now only with those three programs which saved information of theirs in that the old location which was no existed.

Have you looked at my file ''ListCuser.txt:' ' I have uploaded to my Onedrive? Have you had a look at my details posted one day ago. here
You're welcome.

That's what I thought the issue was - I think we're looking at it from different angles.

I did look at the ListCuser.txt file and the things I looked at look normal.

Could you provide the same list for the c:\user?
Open a standard Command Prompt and type the following command

C:
cd C:\Users

dir /a /s > ListCuser-b.txt

Then attach %USERPROFILE%\ListCuser-b.txt to your next post.
Thanks,

Bill
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16 Nov 2014   #26
Hadramawt

Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit
 
 

Thanks a lot,

I really have tried running that command once I got on the 'C:\Users' path. However, I faced an error access is denied.



Thus, I thought that I should have run that command when I was on 'my existing user account'
C:\Users\Mohammad
However, the same error was shown to me.



No error was there when running the command while on D:\Users\Mohammad
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17 Nov 2014   #27
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

Well that's odd.

It might be the write that's causing the Access Denied (my fault for not directing the output to your user temp folder), try it this way

Open an elevated Command Prompt and type the following commands
C:

cd C:\Users

dir /a /s > %TEMP%\ListCuser-b.txt

exit
Then attach D:\Users\Mohammad\TEMP\ListCuser-b.txt to your next post.

If that doesn't work, don't worry about trying to run it. I was just trying to narrow down what was written to those locations.

Bill
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17 Nov 2014   #28
Hadramawt

Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit
 
 

Thanks a lot,
I first moved into 'C:\Users', then I run the command.
I really have run that command, and it run well, but there neither was folder called 'Temp' created under 'D:\Users\Mohammad', Nor under 'C:\Users\Mohammad'.
When I didn't find any temp folder created, I run the command while on 'C:\Users\Mohammad', but also, no thing was created. I don't know where the file was saved.



I hope you find a way to let me know where I can find that 'temp' folder created by running that command.
It should be created under 'C:\Users\Mohammad' as long as I run the command while on 'C:\Users\Mohammad'. However, to be quite sure that I checked the 'D:\Users\Mohammad' as well.
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17 Nov 2014   #29
Kari

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Hadramawt View Post
I hope you find a way to let me know where I can find that 'temp' folder created by running that command.
It should be created under 'C:\Users\Mohammad' as long as I run the command while on 'C:\Users\Mohammad'. However, to be quite sure that I checked the 'D:\Users\Mohammad' as well.
You can enter your TEMP folder simply by typing %temp% in File Explorer's addressbar and hitting Enter. It takes you directly to Temp folder, opening it in Explorer.

An easy way to get your directory listing and post it here, give this command:

dir /a /s | clip

The Pipe symbol ('|') followed by parameter clip sends (pipes) the text output of any command, in this case DIR command, to clipboard. Now open the Notepad, right click inside the Notepad window and select Paste. The listing is now pasted in Notepad. Save the text file and attach it in your post here.

This easy process in screenshots:

Send command output to Clipboard:
Old default location 'C:\Users\(existing user account)recreated again-2014-11-17_12h29_47.png
Paste in Notepad:
Old default location 'C:\Users\(existing user account)recreated again-2014-11-17_12h29_04.png
Done:
Old default location 'C:\Users\(existing user account)recreated again-2014-11-17_12h31_07.png


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17 Nov 2014   #30
Hadramawt

Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit
 
 

Thank you both of you very much.




Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Slartybart View Post
Well that's odd.
C:

cd C:\Users

dir /a /s > %TEMP%\ListCuser-b.txt

exit
Then attach D:\Users\Mohammad\TEMP\ListCuser-b.txt to your next post.
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But I really didn't find the 'TEMP' folder inside 'D:\Users\Mohammad\Temp', however, when I typed '%Temp%, as opposed to what is beings said, however, it is in 'D:\Users\Mohammad\AppData\Local\Temp'



Also, could you please confirm for me these points:

First: why did I find the file 'ListCuser.txt' inside the existing user account's folder('D:\Users\Mohammad') when I run the command below while on D:\Users\Mohammad
dir /a /s > ListCuser.txt
Then attach %USERPROFILE%\ListCuser.txt to your next post.

Second: However, when I run the command above while on "C:\Users\Mohammad', I found an error 'access is denied'

Third: When I run the command 'dir /a /s > %TEMP%\ListCuser-b.txt' while on either "C:\Users\Mohammad' or even 'D:\Users\Mohammad', I didn't find the output file was listed(Saved) inside the existing user account's folder 'C:\Users\Mohammad' OR 'D:\Users\Mohammad'.
However, To get the output file, I had to either
"%Temp%" in the search box. OR by running that command 'dir /a /s | clip'


Fourth: I noticed you only said to me that I have to run that command after moving to 'C:\Users' without saying 'C:\Users\Existing user name"
C:
cd C:\Users
dir /a /s > %TEMP%\ListCuser-b.txt
exit

However, when I run that no output was there at all. However, I had to move to 'C:\Users\Mohammad'
C:\Users\Mohammad\ dir /a /s > %TEMP%\ListCuser-b.txt






With respect to the output file after running that command
C:\Users\Mohammad\ dir /a /s > %TEMP%\ListCuser-b.txt



Thanks for Kari, who brought my attention to these ways. As said before I found two ways to find the file (ListCuser-b.txt), which are: SINCE I GOT THEM BY DIFFERENT WAY, I REALLY UPLOADED THE TWO FILES TO LET YOU CHECK THEM, ALTHOUGH I AM FAIRLY SURE THAT THEY ARE SAME.

The file (ListCuser-b.txt) was found on 'D:\Users\Mohammad\AppData\Local\Temp' after searching '%temp%'

The file (ListCuser-b.txt) was copied to clipboard after running the command 'C:\Users\Mohammad\dir /a /s | clip'
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