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Windows 7: Did a clean install of Windows 7 64 bit - problems with everything

02 Dec 2014   #1
Mahavira

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 
Did a clean install of Windows 7 64 bit - problems with everything

Sorry for the vague title but pretty close to everything is not working properly...

Ok, I got a new CPU and motherboard, and did a clean install of windows 7 ultimate onto a formatted hard drive. Installing drivers afterwards has proven very difficult (it frequently says the program is corrupt even when it's from the manufacturer's disk) - sometimes I can brute force through by repeated attempts (particularly in safe mode) but I'm not convinced anything works afterwards, and almost no web sites display properly - frames won't show, graphics are distorted, frequent 400 errors, walls of gibberish text, links don't do anything, the works. It happened with IE 8 (which installed from the disk), it happened wiht IE 11 after I upgraded, and I installed google chrome to see if it was an IE problem, and it doesn't appear to be. Sometimes refreshing helps a bit, but not usually (and it rarely fixes everything). I haven't even gotten to install any applications to see if they work. I installed 200 or so updates through windows update, but that's about it - I can't even manage to get into mcafee to install my virus program.

I'm not sure if this is a hardware or software problem. If it's software its either the drivers for the hardware or windows itself. Windows doesn't show anything being wrong or not working, either. Are there any tests I can do to see if I need to just go back to the store and replace my hardware?


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03 Dec 2014   #2
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Hello and welcome Mahavira mate first up what pack is the Ultimate coming in - retail or OEM?. Now because if it is an OEM then that activation code will be tied to the old board, and without permission from Microsoft you will not be able to use it on the new motherboard. (That is you can contact Microsoft by phone explain you had to have a new motherboard and can you use the old OEM to load the new board they are usually quite obliging) The retail version you can use more than once so which is it before we go delving into deeper water.
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03 Dec 2014   #3
Mahavira

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Thank you for responding. The windows disk is retail.
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03 Dec 2014   #4
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Ok that is good Maharive now mate the disk itself just might be bad for whatever reason so as you have the activation code use this as this will give you the "freshest" ISO of Windows - whatever version - and you will not be downloading so many updates as a lot will come with the ISO.
Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7 Just make sure you pick the correct version - bit wise. See my pic for what it will appear as.
Any problems post back in Gregs tutorial and he can guide you far better than I - however I have used this a few times myself and it does save a lot of work apart form having to make a bootable disk or stick.

If this doesn't work then we shall have to look elsewhere.


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03 Dec 2014   #5
Mahavira

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Got a more recent disk image, reinstalled, telling windows not to try and install drivers (I'd read somewhere that other programs trying to do this was one reason nvidia graphics drivers fail to install). Results were interesting. Chipset driver and sound driver went in fine. Graphics drivers still wouldn't install (nvidia claims this is usually caused by the download being corrupt, and the fact that it usually botches while the thing is trying to unpack would support this, though they say it also can happen when there's other software trying to do something). In terms of the internet (the main way I can tell things aren't working properly) - this time around I had more success (but not enough) with McAfee's website - I actually got to download the installer, but wasn't able to install (it failed partway in). I kept getting the following errors:

Trouble processing request
HTTP 400 bad request
distorted images and bands of inappropriate colors (this may be because I was using the windows default video driver at the time)
constantly having to re-log in to the website
characters out of place - there's be a number where a letter was clearly intended.
the installer appeared to lose connection a few times (sometimes it didn't even start up properly - just a blank window - the only reason I got as far in as I did is that I downloaded the installer to my hard drive and kept trying).

I'm beginning to wonder if this is a problem with the ethernet card on the motherboard - the ethernet driver on the manufacturer disk immediately said "application is corrupt" and while I was able to install the ethernet driver that I'd downloaded to a thumb drive, the internet still didn't seem to like me much.
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03 Dec 2014   #6
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

Just run all rounds of windows update. When that`s fully done (no more updates) then check device manager for any driver issues.

Start again wipe that install out.
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03 Dec 2014   #7
gregrocker

 

Please start over and this time follow the steps in Clean Reinstall Windows 7 . The steps for drivers are printed in red so you can't miss them. Forcing drivers Win7 doesn't want will cause problems like you are seeing. This is not XP but the first driver-complete OS. It's rare there are more than a few drivers still missing in Device Manager after all rounds of Updates are done.

If you will stick only with the tools and methods provided in tutorial then you will get and keep a perfect install for as long as you do. MucAfee is the worst possible program one could inflict on Win7. I would use Panda Cloud which is more aggressive than MSE but also takes no toll on performance.
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03 Dec 2014   #8
Mahavira

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Thank you for the feedback. Your advice is precisely the opposite of everything I've ever been told (probably dating from prior versions of windows) which may be why I'm screwing this up - it isn't what you don't know but what you know that isn't so that really fouls you up. I'm less hung up on using McAfee than the fact that their website regularly gives me the errors I'm "looking for" to see if things are fixed.

I'll try again after work tomorrow (I've been losing too much sleep fighting this). Presuming I continue to have problems after going through the tutorial exactly, is hardware the next likely culprit?
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03 Dec 2014   #9
gregrocker

 

You can test the hardware first with boot disks provided in Troubleshooting Steps for Windows 7
if you want to get that out of the way.

Otherwise I'd do the install first since you need a good one anyway and it may obviate the need for hardware testing if it goes well.

Its best to be fully rested and eager to learn when tackling a Clean Reinstall Windows 7 since it compiles everything we've learned in tens of thousands of installs we've directly helped with here since beta, and has been used by over a million consumers without a single complaint so we know it's solid advice.
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06 Dec 2014   #10
Mahavira

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

I reinstalled, went through windows update until they stopped saying there were any updates other than language packs. I had to manually install the ethernet driver, and a couple of drivers from the motherboard manufacturer's disk (windows wasn't identifying a few devices). I am still having trouble with web pages not displaying correctly (distorted images, bad color, bands of what look like "snow" on old tv sets and blocks of gibberish text), links not working, I tried to download panda antivirus and it said some of the installation files were corrupt and I should redownload (it decided to finish installing for whatever reason). I looked at windows update and noted several updates that had failed outright or were listed as pending and didn't change regardless of whether I restarted or not (there were also a number of updates that had a successful install listed prior to a failed and pending install). I suppose it's possible that some or all of these were superceded by other updates and that's why they failed or were left pending, but as they're nearly all listed as recommended or important, and I'm still having problems, I thought I'd mention them.


The list is as follows:

Failed Windows Updates

Update for Internet Explorer 8 Compatibility view lists for Windows 7 for x64 based systems (KB2598845)

nVidia Graphics Adapter WDDM 1.1, Graphics Adapter WDDM1.2, Graphics Adapter WDDM 1.3 – Nvidia GeForce GTW 750 Ti [NB windows did find a display driver of some kind but given that this is listed as recommended and I am having display problems it probably needs correction – unfortunately as described earlier in this set of posts I can’t manually install a graphics driver except through brute force repetition]

Pending and never stops pending

Security Update for Microsoft .net framework 3.5.1 on Windows 7 and Windows Server R2 SP1 for x64 based systems (KB2656356)

Security Update for Microsoft .net framework 3.5.1 on Windows 7 and Windows Server R2 SP1 for x64 based systems (KB2789645)

Update for Windows 7 for x64 based systems (KB2515325)

Update for Windows 7 for x64 based systems (KB2913152)

Update for Windows 7 for x64 based systems (KB2978092)

Update for Windows 7 for x64 based systems (KB2970228)

Cumulative security update for Internet Explorer 11 for Windows 7 for x64 based systems (KB3003057) [NB a cumulative update for IE 8 with the same KB number was successfully installed]

Security update for windows 7 for x64 based systems (KB2984981)

Security update for windows 7 for x64 based systems (KB2912390)

Update for Windows 7 for x64 based systems (KB2732487)

Update for Windows 7 for x64 based systems (KB982018)

Update for Windows 7 for x64 based systems (KB2977728)

Update for Windows 7 for x64 based systems (KB2994023)

Update for Windows 7 for x64 based systems (KB2929755)

Update for Windows 7 for x64 based systems (KB2647753)
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