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Windows 7: Using old drive in new computer

06 Jan 2015   #41
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Here is a example. What Windows 7/64 can run on. Who would try to do such a thing.

Windows 7 system requirements

Windows 7 system requirements - Windows Help


If your want to run Windows 7 on your PC, here's what it takes:
  • 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor
  • 1 gigabyte (GB) RAM (32-bit) or 2 GB RAM (64-bit)
  • 16 GB available hard disk space (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit)
  • DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driver
That is why I stated this.


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What computer it can run on will probable be a lot different from a computer it will run well on.
It's you program and your computer of course you can do as you please.


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06 Jan 2015   #42
Bob Myers

7 home premium 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
A $3000.00 CAD program will probable chew up all the laptop you can install it on.

You have not priced cad/cam recently I presume. Solid Works full with inventor is near $20k now, mine is considered an entry level program in todays world of cam. Even BobCad full is over $5k now. It was $2300 when I bought it 5 years ago.
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06 Jan 2015   #43
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

I think a program for 3 grand would merit a system for 1 grand minimum.
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06 Jan 2015   #44
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

I do understand the cost of CAD programs, only because I Google do to curiosity.

That is the only reason I suggested to get as much computer as you can so what ever CAD program you got will work to its best.

I have no personal gain one way or the other what computer you use.

I just highly recommend doing a lot of research before buying a computer.
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06 Jan 2015   #45
Bob Myers

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If the requirement you advise above are minimum requirement for a W7 environment then why pray tell are machines of lesser quality sold by (supposed) manufacturers like Dell, Acer, Asus with less qualifications? Pre-planned obsolescence?
The machine I am running 7 on with all its shortcomings is a store bought package, and at the time with my limited knowledge of what i would need for future use seemed adequate.
As I said, I will take the requirement you advised in your first link to someone who can or will build a machine I can use, or shop some box store for something similar,,,, unless you are willing to build it.
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06 Jan 2015   #46
Bob Myers

7 home premium 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
I do understand the cost of CAD programs, only because I Google do to curiosity.

That is the only reason I suggested to get as much computer as you can so what ever CAD program you got will work to its best.

I have no personal gain one way or the other what computer you use.

I just highly recommend doing a lot of research before buying a computer.
Please don't misinterpret my replies, I really do appreciate not only you but everyone who has chipped in on this, and I am sure there will be a consensus reached and something better done with my resources. You guys have no idea how much i have learned from this endeavor.
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06 Jan 2015   #47
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Here is another site with some basic well rounded information.

CPU, GPU, and RAM for CAD Workstations | Cadalyst


If you have a quality computer building company in your town, seek their input for a computer to match your CAD program and what you are going to use it for.

Their are a lot of variances.
Some CAD programs will march right along on 8 to 16 gigs of ram and some will use 128 gigs of ram and ask for more.

Research and more research is what I do before spending a lot of money on a computer.
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07 Jan 2015   #48
Bob Myers

7 home premium 32 bit
 
 

talking to a fellow here in Lexington who builds computers, at this point he says a Intel Core i5-4590 @ 3.30GHz rated at
7,251 by passmark is plenty for all I want to do, what is the opinion here, enough? Only a $200 cpu.
I did specify a min of 16G ram, and W7 - 64. Video he is using claims to be a 2g unit, but I have not seen the model number of what exactly he proposes yet.
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07 Jan 2015   #49
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bob Myers View Post
talking to a fellow here in Lexington who builds computers, at this point he says a Intel Core i5-4590 @ 3.30GHz rated at
7,251 by passmark is plenty for all I want to do, what is the opinion here, enough? Only a $200 cpu.
I did specify a min of 16G ram, and W7 - 64. Video he is using claims to be a 2g unit, but I have not seen the model number of what exactly he proposes yet.
What is your budget?

Have you made contact with any other machinists who use the same software you need to use? What PC components do they use? I'm guessing you know other people who use CAD/CAM.

You may or may not be able to benefit from an Intel i7, which would have hyperthreading. Some applications can take advantage of that and some can't. That would add maybe $100 to the cost.

There's a major difference between a PC that will "run" certain programs and one that will run them well. Night and day. You can install and run Windows on slow machines with less than 1 GB of RAM, but it's agony.

The 4590 is a strong processor, but there are stronger ones available if you need even more strength. Do you? The 4590 was introduced within the last year or so, so you are in the ballpark with it.

If you need more than 16 GB of RAM, now or in the future, you have to go with Windows 7 Professional or Ultimate.
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07 Jan 2015   #50
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bob Myers View Post
talking to a fellow here in Lexington who builds computers, at this point he says a Intel Core i5-4590 @ 3.30GHz rated at
7,251 by passmark is plenty for all I want to do, what is the opinion here, enough? Only a $200 cpu.
I did specify a min of 16G ram, and W7 - 64. Video he is using claims to be a 2g unit, but I have not seen the model number of what exactly he proposes yet.
An i5 is a good CPU. But I would take the "K" model. Then you have the later possibility to OC it if in need for more Mips. The K costs only a few dollars more.
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