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Windows 7: Using old drive in new computer

07 Jan 2015   #51
ignatzatsonic

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New computer to run OneCNC XR5 pro

Bob:

You might find the above link useful.

It's a machinist's forum and they are talking about what type of PC is needed to run ONECNC XR5 Pro.

Looks like they generally feel an $800 to $1000 type PC with a mid to upper level i5 or i7 is what is needed. Some talk of SSDs, but they aren't needed.

You might join that forum and give them the specifics of your situation.


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07 Jan 2015   #52
Bob Myers

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bob Myers View Post
talking to a fellow here in Lexington who builds computers, at this point he says a Intel Core i5-4590 @ 3.30GHz rated at
7,251 by passmark is plenty for all I want to do, what is the opinion here, enough? Only a $200 cpu.
I did specify a min of 16G ram, and W7 - 64. Video he is using claims to be a 2g unit, but I have not seen the model number of what exactly he proposes yet.
What is your budget?

Have you made contact with any other machinists who use the same software you need to use? What PC components do they use? I'm guessing you know other people who use CAD/CAM.

You may or may not be able to benefit from an Intel i7, which would have hyperthreading. Some applications can take advantage of that and some can't. That would add maybe $100 to the cost.

There's a major difference between a PC that will "run" certain programs and one that will run them well. Night and day. You can install and run Windows on slow machines with less than 1 GB of RAM, but it's agony.

The 4590 is a strong processor, but there are stronger ones available if you need even more strength. Do you? The 4590 was introduced within the last year or so, so you are in the ballpark with it.

If you need more than 16 GB of RAM, now or in the future, you have to go with Windows 7 Professional or Ultimate.
I'm sure(??) since it is 64 bit it will be at least one of those won't it?
My budget was $600.00 until this morning, computer took a dump on one of the CNC mills and since is proprietry stuff I have to purchase an exchange unit from them. $1200.
So my now is whatever the credit card will hold since I no longer can pay as I go with this. Still like to stay under 650 if possible.
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07 Jan 2015   #53
ignatzatsonic

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For 650, what would you prefer:

1: find someone in your town to do a custom build for that amount?

2: buy an already assembled machine over the internet? (Dell, HP, etc)

3: buy an already assembled machine locally (Best Buy, Costco, etc)

You can buy a pretty strong 64 bit machine with an i5-4590 or 4690 for 650 online. It would have Windows pre-installed.

Here's an example, just an example:

Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, LED LCD TV, Digital Cameras and more - Newegg.com

I'm not sure what level of video card you would need for machinist work. The built in graphics on Intel CPUs might be enough, at least temporarily. That's probably an area you need to research.

Look at the machinist's forum link I mentioned a couple of posts above this.
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07 Jan 2015   #54
Bob Myers

7 home premium 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
New computer to run OneCNC XR5 pro

Bob:

You might find the above link useful.

It's a machinist's forum and they are talking about what type of PC is needed to run ONECNC XR5 Pro.

Looks like they generally feel an $800 to $1000 type PC with a mid to upper level i5 or i7 is what is needed. Some talk of SSDs, but they aren't needed.

You might join that forum and give them the specifics of your situation.
I am a member there, had read that thread already with thoughts of 2 guys dueling with pistols the way they were carrying on. However, reading it again, this time with some understanding that I have gleaned from this thread I can see what their big chest thumping session was about. Even the bestest fastest stuff they were touting 9 months ago has been supered by something else today.
I had looked at an off shelf Dell basically exactly as the OP had shown and bought but thought I could get away cheaper. Not happening though
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07 Jan 2015   #55
Bob Myers

7 home premium 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
For 650, what would you prefer:

1: find someone in your town to do a custom build for that amount?

2: buy an already assembled machine over the internet? (Dell, HP, etc)

3: buy an already assembled machine locally (Best Buy, Costco, etc)

You can buy a pretty strong 64 bit machine with an i5-4590 or 4690 for 650 online. It would have Windows pre-installed.

Here's an example, just an example:

Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, LED LCD TV, Digital Cameras and more - Newegg.com

I'm not sure what level of video card you would need for machinist work. The built in graphics on Intel CPUs might be enough, at least temporarily. That's probably an area you need to research.

Look at the machinist's forum link I mentioned a couple of posts above this.
I found a guy locally, actually an old friend, gave him the parameters I received here, and ask what it would take for him to build it. He has Church bus duty tonight but will price it out tomorrow for me. From what I described he guessed 650, we'll see
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07 Jan 2015   #56
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bob Myers View Post
I found a guy locally, actually an old friend, gave him the parameters I received here, and ask what it would take for him to build it. He has Church bus duty tonight but will price it out tomorrow for me. From what I described he guessed 650, we'll see
If you trust him and he's competent, that's probably the way I'd go.

He may not be cheaper than elsewhere, but would have advantages such as:

1: you should have much more control over the individual parts.

2: you shouldn't have to buy anything you DON'T need, such as another keyboard, mouse, monitor, etc. You can spend the money exactly where it's needed.

3: maybe better support from him if something goes wrong.

You will probably have to buy another copy of Windows unless you already have a "retail" version. Most likely he will be able to supply an "OEM" version of Windows, which would be forever tied to the motherboard on the new PC. If you later on changed motherboards, you'd have to buy another copy of Windows.

You might consider Windows 8.1 if the price is about the same.

Let us know what parts he suggests, including details--brand names, model numbers, etc.
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07 Jan 2015   #57
Bob Myers

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does w8 not marry itself to the motherboard like 7 does?
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07 Jan 2015   #58
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Yes W-8 also does that unless you buy a Retail Version.

A Retail Version can be move from one compute (motherboard) to another computer as long as it is only install on one computer at a time.

Window 8 also does not have a COA sticker.
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07 Jan 2015   #59
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

You buy retail (which you won`t find) you can use it on any computer you want,1 pc at a time.

You buy oem (which you will get) and your motherboard dies and you have to buy another, the code should work again no problem, if not you just use the automated phone activation.

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit - Operating Systems - Newegg.com

You said you`re gonna transfer the hard drive, so there`s nothing to worry about.

The computer that was linked will do what you want, but it doesn`t even list a video card, which in my opinion is one of your biggest concerns, workstation graphics cards are crazy expensive.
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07 Jan 2015   #60
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

I have had to RMA a motherboard with the exact motherboard and all I did was give Microsoft a call.

If you put a completely different motherboard in you might have a problem. It will be up to Microsoft discretion when you call.

Reading this should be helpful.

OEM system builder licensing
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