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Windows 7: Retrieve Windows 7 product key

09 Jan 2015   #11
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

Did you not read the post, the pc`s didn`t come with COA`s or keys.

Installing the software to 10 pc`s will take no time at all, do it when the kids go home for the day.

As I already said, cloning will take way longer and could create all types of problems, not to mention the fact (again) the op does not have keys.


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09 Jan 2015   #12
SIW2

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No idea what law is supposed to have been broken.

MS used to insist keys were given with win7, but they don't do that now.

If you want to know about the law , it is here:

http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/d...cp120094en.pdf

It is perfectly clear. If you have bought a license, it is yours. Move it, sell it, whatever.
It may be the keys on those machines bought for the school are not slp.

You can check The Ultimate PID Checker
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09 Jan 2015   #13
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Yes well having a great deal of trouble with a dealer just lately I found by accident the activation code dished up by various software's can be at least three different ones and it turned out that the actual activation code was none of them so I would be very careful what software tells you what re the COA code.
In my instance the dealer states he does not have to attach a sticker and only has to provide me with the activation.
Bu I am not going to bore everyone with my very long story except that Microsoft stated to me on the phone that a sticker has to be attached yet many EBay dealers are in fact not attaching 7 COA stickers because a) I don't think they have them and b) they are misusing their bulk install licence.
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09 Jan 2015   #14
NoelDP

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The ONLY cases where MS do not insist on COA Stickers being attached are where the machine is a downgrade from Win8 Pro - which REQUIRES that the installation media are the manufacturer's Recovery media.

I think that if this is the case here (and it's likely), then cloning a machine should work OK as the SLIC table should match so long as all machines are the same make (and model??).

Having said that, the optimum solution would be a proper sysprepped image using a Volume License Key.
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09 Jan 2015   #15
ICIT2LOL

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Ok Noel so in my case the seller is probably right re the sticker? as it was a downgrade from 8.1 which the machine was built to have installed as the normal.

I still think these fellows area bit shonky but if what you ay is right then they are right in not having to place a sticker on the machines they put the optional 7 install on?
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09 Jan 2015   #16
NoelDP

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So long as it has a Windows 8 Pro sticker on, it's legal.
If there's neither the Win 8 Pro sticker, nor a Win7 COA (that matches the installed OS) then it's deffo not legal
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09 Jan 2015   #17
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
No idea what law is supposed to have been broken.

MS used to insist keys were given with win7, but they don't do that now.

If you want to know about the law , it is here:

http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/d...cp120094en.pdf

It is perfectly clear. If you have bought a license, it is yours. Move it, sell it, whatever.
It may be the keys on those machines bought for the school are not slp.

You can check The Ultimate PID Checker
What law ?

The one that says every PC sold with windows 7 has to come with a COA and key.

Just a simple chat I did with Dell 30 seconds ago.


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Does every Windows 7 pc you sell come with a COA and key ?
4:00:04 PM Agent TIP_Simon G
Hi Brian. Thanks for chatting. Let me just double check that for you.
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Such as this
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4:02:20 PM Customer Brian
Np poroblem, I`m sure you know what a COA is
4:02:20 PM Agent TIP_Simon G
Upon checking yes it comes with it Brian.
4:02:45 PM Customer Brian
And windows 8 pc`s do not, correct ?
4:04:44 PM Agent TIP_Simon G
Let me just look for a system here it my end to make sure.
4:06:49 PM Agent TIP_Simon G
Upon checking, it comes with COA also. By the way, are you planning to purchase a system? Do you want me to assist you?
4:06:57 PM Customer Brian
And who demands the sticker be on there ? Microsoft or Dell ?
4:07:15 PM Customer Brian
no I already own a Dell, I`m doing research
4:08:02 PM Customer Brian
Does the Windows 8 pc have the actual COA sticker ?
4:08:59 PM Agent TIP_Simon G
It is Microsoft since it is for there security purposes. Yes it has the actual. \
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09 Jan 2015   #18
SIW2

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Quote:
The one that says every PC sold with windows 7 has to come with a COA and key
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I still don't see any law requiring product keys to be stuck on a machine. It is something MS insisted the oems do, it may be part of the contract between them. Apparently not any more. I haven't bought a machine with win8 on, so I can't be certain. Haven't there been posters saying they don't get keys now - aside from the one embedded in the firmware?

MS do not make laws.
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09 Jan 2015   #19
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 



Every pc ever sold by a reputable company since 1995 with a windows OS installed has come with a legal COA, and no, some companies may not use them for Windows 8. But as per my chat with Dell, they say they come with a COA. My point is, the pc`s that the OP got should have stickers on them. I would certainly question the dealer as to where he got the Windows 7 licenses and how did he activate windows, are these new pc`s etc.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...60s%20software
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09 Jan 2015   #20
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by NoelDP View Post
So long as it has a Windows 8 Pro sticker on, it's legal.
If there's neither the Win 8 Pro sticker, nor a Win7 COA (that matches the installed OS) then it's deffo not legal
Ok Noel it has got so convoluted now re an issue with the new machine I bought I am not going to argue the toss with the seller anymore because it has a sticker for the 8 but no 7 sticker for the (I think) install he did using a ?bulk install agreement licence he has with Microsoft. In any case I could not get a straight answer from Microsoft because of the problems with language and the knowledge of the call centre operator apart from - "ask the seller for a sticker" which I have on more occasions than I care to remember and on each occasion him saying he doesn't have to put a 7 sticker on.
What I do know is that the version he put on was build 7600 so therefore must be a very old licence if that what it is for him to install 7 on the machines he sells - as an option to that wretched 8 stuff. I have said in other threads that I found out after six hours of searching and an error code for not downloading updates that SP1 was not present - which I downloaded and installed and the thing started downloading updates willy - nilly.
Pic is of the only sticker on the bottom of the machine there is no stickers otherwise not even maker's serial numbers etc etc
To be honest if Windows 10 is as good as 7 and I have to upgrade to that then I will do that to get away from all the extremely - again convoluted - rules, regulations and laws.


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