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Windows 7: install ssd and keep all programs without a reinstall of windows

16 Jan 2015   #121
gregrocker

 

You asked me a question and I replied with the answer again.


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17 Jan 2015   #122
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

Tomorrow I will ask him to disconnect the hard dirve again, then count how long it takes to boot the pc from the time he pushes the power button until the time he gets to the Windows 7 desktop.
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17 Jan 2015   #123
gatewatcher

Windows 7, 64 bit, Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Yes, I already said Recovery will not work without the OS partition, and provided the steps with illustrated tutorials for him to use at his leisure to do whatever he wants to do.

With all that space there is no reason to rush, so he should take all the time needed to make sure everything is backed up first.

I'm still waiting to hear if the boot times improved to know if he even has an SSD install he should keep. So for the fifth time: did boot times improve when you unplugged the HD because if so then it should be wiped of boot code using Diskpart Clean Command ?
I did answer you in post #97. Your right, machine looks cleaner now. I think I'll leave it as is, with the exception of the unallocated space that's left. Thanks
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17 Jan 2015   #124
gatewatcher

Windows 7, 64 bit, Home Premium
 
 

Here is a snip of my boot time from this morning. It is with everything connected. 66.5 seconds, Don't know what it was before SSD installed, but was slower. I'm okay with it.


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17 Jan 2015   #125
gregrocker

 

I specifically asked about boot times with the HD unplugged. There is a reason for this. Old boot code on the hard drive can be slowing boot, as can the Active partition being queried by the BIOS.

We also must take into account that the factory install is the worst possible install of WIn7 one can have, so is hardly a decent candidate for cloning to an SSD. It would be like moving the engine of a junker into a Lexus. If forced to do this I would at least Clean Up Factory Bloatware establishing a clean boot to see if it improves any.

Your best bet is always to Clean Reinstall Windows 7 to get the freshest start and fastest performance.
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17 Jan 2015   #126
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

Actually Gate, 66 seconds is an eternity for a ssd, when you get time, and if you want I`d like you to try what I suggestsed in post # 124 and count 1 1 thousand 2 1 thousnad and let us know how long it takes to get to the fully loaded desktop.

And when you`re ready to wipe the hard drive just come back and let us know, cheers.

Get some rest
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17 Jan 2015   #127
gatewatcher

Windows 7, 64 bit, Home Premium
 
 

Thanks for coming back. I will take the computer apart again in the morning and do the count you want with the HDD disconnected, from power button press to W7 desktop. I'll get back to you with it.
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18 Jan 2015   #128
gatewatcher

Windows 7, 64 bit, Home Premium
 
 

Okay, got a later start here then anticipated but, here we go.

Using counting method you wanted. Counted boot before anything disconnected. 47s. till desktop came up.

Counted boot after HDD disconnected 34s. till desktop came up.

Did each twice. First and second timings within a second or so of each count. So, while not a very accurate way to do it. That's what I got.

Note: that included typing in my password each time.
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19 Jan 2015   #129
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

You put a password on your home desktop Why on earth ???

34 is not too bad, considering you have to type in a password, and the fact that it was a clone and not a clean install, but that`s not what you wanted anyway.

The specs of the ssd don`t look bad either.

SP / Silicon Power-High quality, Exclusive and Unique Leading memory storage brand

Let us know when you`re ready to wipe the hard drive
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19 Jan 2015   #130
gregrocker

 

With the HD disconnected, run Startup Repair to check over your boot files.

Did you already follow whs's suggestions to check alignment? SSD Alignment - Windows 7 Forums
SSD Tweaks and Optimizations in Windows 7

If you have storage space I'd move the files off the HD to wipe it with Diskpart Clean Command,
then either swap its cable with the SSD if possible so it appears in Disk1 in Disk Mgmt, or format only Logical data partitions if not: Partition / Extended : Logical Drives - Windows 7 Forums

I've already given you steps to Clean Up Factory Bloatware especially establishing a Clean Boot which very much affects boot times.

If none of these bring the SSD boot time down below 20 seconds then I'd probably do a Clean Reinstall Windows 7 or if unwilling to do that for other reasons chalk up the slow boot times to needing to clone the HP factory install.
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