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Windows 7: Another "Downgrade Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit to Pro" post

30 Jul 2015   #1
rottencurry

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 
Win 7 Ult to Pro OR Win 7 straight to 8.1 Pro

Original Title: Another "Downgrade Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit to Pro" post --> Changed because I'm now focusing more on Win 8.1



Windows details:

Intel(R) Core i5-3570K @ 3.40GHz
8.00 GB of RAM
64 bit Windows 7 Ultimate SP1


EDIT: I now think getting an 8.1 Pro Upgrade Product Key is cheaper rather than trying to purchase Win 7 Pro (and also safer; it's sold by Microsoft). Can I use an 8.1 Pro Upgrade key to upgrade a nongenuine/unactivated copy of 8.1 and get genuine Windows 8.1 Pro? If I can do this I would be saving around $100! So please tell me if I'm missing something obvious.

Hello,
I've been using an illegitimate copy of Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit for a few years now (I hope it's OK to admit that especially since I've been honestly trying to change my ways for awhile now. It wasn't even until recently that I knew it was pirated) In short, I want to get genuine Windows so I can upgrade to Windows 10 without having problems in the future. The day that I'm posting this I've spent hours trying to activate Windows. I bought a key (truly too good to be true) for $41.50 from Bonanza.com. I found out that the Product ID contained 069, meaning the Product Key was attached to a blocked MSDN product. Words can't describe my anger towards the person who sold the key (I know I should have been more wary but I guess I'm too naive), but fortunately he refunded me fully.

Luckily I backed up my old install (I clean installed Windows 7 to activate the key) with Macrium and got it to restore correctly, so here I am back on my ungenuine Windows. I tried a few hours ago to look up some more Windows 7 Ultimate Keys to validate my computer and I found some sellers who seem more legitimate (as in my Bonanza seller joined in May of this year and had 100% rating on close to 200 transactions whereas these eBay sellers joined in 2002 and seem more trustworthy). I even considered buying Windows 8.1 Pro (so I can get Windows 10 Pro) to get the key, get validated, and install Windows 10. Then I thought to myself why not get Windows 7 Pro, since it also allows upgrade to Windows 10 Pro and is significantly cheaper from the most-likely-scamming-sellers (but who knows?). Happily I see that I'm not the only one who thought that and looked at several posts on SevenForums on the topic. All of them have some answers I'm looking for but not all of them. For example, some of the posts I've read (some from 2011, some from a month ago) never say if they are using pirated Windows and the ones that do have vague answers (and I do not want to go through the frustration of Windows not working again). So basically this is what I'm looking to do:

1) I've backed up my current install but I don't really care if I have to clean install as I'm aiming to clean install Windows 10 when I get the chance. I have all the drivers necessary and am prepared to delete Windows 7 Ultimate and start clean, whereas other posts worry about having to clean install. Hopefully clean installing Windows Pro will be easier.

2) I need to buy a Windows 7 Pro Product Key (non OEM). Does anyone have any trustworthy sources? I'm thinking eBay if the seller is experienced. I'm going to be wary of even mailed products as a video I watched (can't find it now but it's basically a guy showing a fake Windows 7 Box and disc).

3) Once I install Windows 7 Pro and validate it I use a USB to install Windows 10.

So as I understand I have to edit the registry and then repair install Windows 7 Pro from my desktop once I get it. It seems pretty easy unless I'm missing something.

Thanks in advance for replies


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30 Jul 2015   #2
genet

Windows 8.1/10 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by rottencurry View Post
Do I need a genuine Windows 8.1 before I upgrade or can I upgrade and then verify?
Quote:
Windows 8 (core): 334NH-RXG76-64THK-C7CKG-D3VPT

Windows 8 Pro: XHQ8N-C3MCJ-RQXB6-WCHYG-C9WKB

The keys above will let you install 8.1, but that's all it does. After installation is complete, you will still have to activate with your own Windows 8/8.1 key.
How to download and create a bootable Windows 8.1 installation media. -> link
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30 Jul 2015   #3
gregrocker

 

Since your goal is Windows 10 I would just install the Technical Preview which is to keep offering new builds. At some point it should offer a free or cheap copy of Win10 to those who register and participate in the Insider program, and if not you have time to shop for windows 7 or 10 from a reliable retailer like New Egg or Tiger Direct where we regularly see 7 Pro for $120.
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30 Jul 2015   #4
rottencurry

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by genet View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by rottencurry View Post
Do I need a genuine Windows 8.1 before I upgrade or can I upgrade and then verify?
Quote:
Windows 8 (core): 334NH-RXG76-64THK-C7CKG-D3VPT

Windows 8 Pro: XHQ8N-C3MCJ-RQXB6-WCHYG-C9WKB

The keys above will let you install 8.1, but that's all it does. After installation is complete, you will still have to activate with your own Windows 8/8.1 key.
How to download and create a bootable Windows 8.1 installation media. -> link
I know how to download and install Windows 8.1 but I can bypass the activation key right? For like 30 days? I'm asking if I can use a 8.1 Pro Upgrade Key without activating regular 8.1 first.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Since your goal is Windows 10 I would just install the Technical Preview which is to keep offering new builds. At some point it should offer a free or cheap copy of Win10 to those who register and participate in the Insider program, and if not you have time to shop for windows 7 or 10 from a reliable retailer like New Egg or Tiger Direct where we regularly see 7 Pro for $120.
I know I can get the Technical Preview but I would rather have a genuine copy of Windows for peace of mind (I know you can technically get a real license key but I would rather have RTM Windows 10). I know my original post was concerned on Windows 7 Pro but now I think getting Windows 8.1 Pro is cheaper. Do you know (as I asked genet above) if I can activate an 8.1 Pro Upgrade on an unactivated 8.1 that I can install with an ISO and a USB? Can I bypass the activation/use the keys provided above to hold it off and then use an 8.1 Pro Upgrade? The reason I'm focusing on the 8.1 Upgrade Key is because:

1) It's sold by Microsoft whereas the Win 7 Pro and Ultimate keys are not (I don't want to be scammed again)
2) The 8.1 Pro Upgrade is around $100 whereas 8.1 by itself is around $110 and Win 8.1 Pro is around $200

How does the upgrade process go from 8.1 to 8.1 Pro? I can easily install 8.1 with an USB, skip/bypass getting real genuine Windows with the keys above, but can I upgrade to 8.1 Pro with a purchased key? It seems too good to be true so I want to make sure before I do anything.

Thanks for the replies!
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30 Jul 2015   #5
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Not sure why you don't just buy an oem copy of 7 Pro.

They can be had for about $45 last time I looked.

Softicle do them , to name but one.
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30 Jul 2015   #6
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Really prices for 7 pro are much lower than 8.1 pro :/
Matter of fact 8.1 pro and 10 pro are the exact same price 140.us.
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30 Jul 2015   #7
rottencurry

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
Not sure why you don't just buy an oem copy of 7 Pro.

They can be had for about $45 last time I looked.

Softicle do them , to name but one.
One of the main reasons I don't want to get OEM is because of the safety issue. I know I can look for a legitimate source but I would rather buy a key from Microsoft (see edited post above). Also, I don't want to have to change my motherboard/install a new hard drive to be able to use OEM Windows (most eBay sellers send hardware with the key). Also, OEM has certain restrictions and I would be happier if I had the Ultimate Windows 10 package rather than OEM. I know it probably doesn't have a big difference but I would prefer if it wasn't OEM (so I can change my components I have a gaming PC that I built and somewhere down the line I might want to purchase a new motherboard or something)

Thanks!
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30 Jul 2015   #8
rottencurry

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Really prices for 7 pro are much lower than 8.1 pro :/
Matter of fact 8.1 pro and 10 pro are the exact same price 140.us.
I don't think you saw my edited post above (sorry I don't know how to not make that sound mean ). If I can buy a Windows 8.1 Upgrade key for around $95 I can have peace of mind that:

1) I'm buying from a 100% legit source
2) It's 100% not OEM

I know my original post was asking about Win 7 Pro but I've changed my mind. I guess I should change the title but I think I'll keep it. And where is Win 10 Pro being sold for $140? On Microsoft's website it's being sold for $200. I'm assuming those $140 copies are OEM and if I want to change my motherboard in the future or something major (which I will probably do) I would be pretty salty.

Thanks for the reply!
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30 Jul 2015   #9
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

I doubt there are any Retail upgrade keys they just do not exist in any version of windows

OEM/ System builds are locked to the mother board only not the hard drive.

Newegg is a legitimate source.
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30 Jul 2015   #10
gregrocker

 

Another reason to try Technical Preview if you haven't is you may not like it and want to return to 7. So don't buy a lemon like 8 to upgrade to a OS you may not want to keep. I would buy Win7 Prem From Tiger when it comes down regularly to $89 unless you know for sure you need the few extra expensive features in Pro.
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