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Windows 7: Acer laptop Win 7 Ultimate x64 OEM, how to clean install without disk?

01 Dec 2015   #41
alphanumeric

Windows 10 Education 64 bit
 
 

Ok I downloaded the portable version of rweverything and ran it. Then went to the Access drop down menu and selected ACPI Table. Then clicked the SLIC tab.

Acer laptop Win 7 Ultimate x64 OEM, how to clean install without disk?-slic-capture.png

You can see mine lists ASUS Notebook. The 20 01 00 02 in blue means mine is version OA 2.1 which supports Windows 7. If it's 20 00 00 00 it's only version OA 2.0 which does not support Windows 7




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01 Dec 2015   #42
silverfx

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Snap, it looks like mine supports Windows 7 too (see attached screenshot below)

This shouldn't surprise me though should it, since it's running 7 at the moment?

Maybe I should double check with Acer support whether they intend to supply Windows 8 recovery media because it wasn't made clear. Out of interest, is Windows 8 supported too and can rweverthing tell us that, or is there only one supported version, 7 or 8, that rweverything has reported?

In any case, the question remains whether updating the bios will desirably overwrite the oem identifier in the slic table to allow activation of recovery media, either 7 or 8.

When I gave them my serial number last time I called support, I imagine they looked it up to see if it had shipped with an OS but they didn't say it had and I didn't ask. In fact they questioned whether i had bought genuine Win 7 with it, and I told them believed I had. I think they are prepared to supply recovery media, either because they know it was originally a genuine Windows 8 installation replaced with counterfeit Windows 7, or because they know that it was originally neither genuine Windows 8 nor 7, but they accept I bought it in good faith.

Cynically, might they be prepared to sell recovery media which they know won't install on a system which never had a genuine OS? Or slightly less cynically, because they don't know whether it will activate or not and/or don't care?

Innocently, they could ignorantly supply media which can't activate with an updated bios, unless I take a chance and explain I know the the current SLIC table was flashed with a false oem-id as per the MGADiag report. If they explicitly accept that I bought it in good faith, or tell me they know it originally shipped with genuine Windows 8, then I will ask for at least a verbal guarantee I can quote them on, that the recovery media I pay for will activate with an updated bios. But is this why you posted your rweverything report showing yours supports Windows 7, and since mine is identical, does that prove Windows 8 was never installed? In which case, I will be relying on them accepting my good faith.

I think my other safe options are to update the bios, wipe the disk and either install a retail version at full cost, or WES8 with free license as I have an account with Dreamspark. I'd rather WES7, but they only do a 32bit version, and I don't think I want to update the bios with 32bit firmware from within my current 64bit installation, but I can look into that some more.


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01 Dec 2015   #43
cyclops

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

silverfx, unless you plan on gettin seks with that thing you probably will never notice a difference between 32 &64 bit, probably wouldn't notice if you were gettin' some. Doh, I take that back, you already got screwed. Sorry, I saw that opening and had to take the cheap shot. Go with the WES7 x32 because with a i3 processor it won't change a lot. Buy some beer instead.
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01 Dec 2015   #44
silverfx

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Nice summary
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01 Dec 2015   #45
silverfx

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Will downgrading from 64 to 32 be a problem, since I have to update the bios from 64 to 32bit with the oem windows flash executable whilst in the current 64bit installation?

Re the seks, you mean I shouldn't tell chicks my system is 32bit?
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01 Dec 2015   #46
cyclops

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Silverfx, it almost looks like you are rolling in a puddle on the floor. Ha ha! That shop is full of it, if you are getting that screen. Who are they? Cuz Daddy wants to give them a call. I don't know what to tell you about the switch from 64 to 32 other than that if it is installed from the correct type of disk for a clean install the version is dependent on the COA that is entered. I have Ultimate 64x cuz that's what i bought. You have no freakin" idea what you bought at this point.
How familiar are you with disk mgt.?
Cuz ya' gotta get ridda that linux partition. Otherwise it could be a wastin' yo space.
I don't always type/talk this way, Im just messin' wich ya.

Bi da way, Iz dowt dey fixd ya' kibowd.
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02 Dec 2015   #47
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

silverfx because you have two threads going at the same time on the same computer it's hard to keep up on what your status is at this time.

Have you done a proper install of Windows 7 or are you still trying to get your counterfeit copy to work?
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02 Dec 2015   #48
silverfx

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Dere ain't no Linus or even Linux partition on this machine, more's the pity, but I will probably stay with Windows for the time being, and the kibowd is fine, I use a Logitech bluetooth keyboard and mouse, cuz I find that after about 2005 all the keyboards went to s**t apart from Thinkpads, when all the other manufacturers started going down the money saving route in the name of imitating MacBook flat key styling. Functionality sacrificed for style, to sell the latest new look and feel. Just one of my pet hates! Even Lenovo followed suit in the end, albeit, keys less flat with some ergonomic indentation for the little ol' finger tips to surf up and down off.

Re the 64/32 conundrum, I will possibly:
  1. install WES7 x32 on a D: partition as a dual boot
  2. update the bios with latest 32 bit version whilst in 32bit environment,
  3. delete the existing C: partition and Ultimate x64 installation

Then I'll reboot and hope it works, but slightly bothered that WES7 won't be left on the C drive, rather the D drive. So then, I'll
  • recreate a C partition
  • install Windows resulting in a dual boot with WES7 on both partitions
  • delete the D partition to leave Windows on the C drive
Finally, I will wipe the disk, my overarching aim, and with the BIOS flashed to the latest 32bit version, finally clean install WES7 to a clean wiped C drive.

What do you think?

Apologies, for the concurrent threads: after starting this thread first, I thought an MGDiag report absolutely had to go in the Windows Updates & Activations sub-forum, but I am probably wrong.

As for a proper install of Windows, in summary, I'll probably install WES7 x32 with a genuine license. If I can get the 64bit-->32bit downgrade procedure right, without bricking the thing.
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02 Dec 2015   #49
silverfx

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Unless I install WES8/WES10 to keep the 64 bit environment and live with the snooping updates, or disable them. No other disadvantages are there? Besides eventually, we'll all have to upgrade anway when they stop supporting 7, won't we?
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02 Dec 2015   #50
alphanumeric

Windows 10 Education 64 bit
 
 

It supporting OA 2.1 is no surprise, it has to for Windows 7 OEM-SLP to work. Notice it lists HPQOEM SLIC. It shouldn't. It should say ACEROEM SLIC. There is a way to check for a Windows 8 embedded code with it. It will be under the ACPI table MSDN tab.
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