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06 May 2016   #11
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

Really, you should only have 2, but just use EasyBCD as David suggests, but make sure you don`t delete the wrong entry.

Also, look at MSconfig, what does it show there ?

The reason your boot takes so long is because you`re using a spinner, and maybe so many startup programs, you need to kill all those accept 1 AV and MBAM

Everything you don`t want to run at startup can be disabled with msconfig, or even easier done with ccleaner.

When you get an ssd you will see the difference, I wouldn`t waste a dime on a spinner for the OS.


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07 May 2016   #12
Nasty7

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AddRAM View Post
glad you are learning.

Hopefully your new drive is an ssd and not a spinner.

SSD 850 PRO 2.5” SATA III MZ-7KE256BW | Memory & Storage

or

SSD 850 EVO 2.5" SATA III 250GB | Samsung Solid State Drives
Yes this is what I'm looking at. Luckily have some good folks advising me.
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07 May 2016   #13
Nasty7

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Quote:
Your Disk Management (DM) screen print in post #7 doesn't show a System partition.
I don't know if the Recovery partition is the System partition, I don't have a Recovery partition.
Maybe someone else knows about that and can explain.
Yes that is a good question. I looked it up to understand the Terminology, but I think you are correct in thinking, it is indeed a "System" Partition and not a Recovery Partition. Recovery would be much bigger right? And it is always marked as "Active" so I think that would signify it is "System" Partition. I don't have a Recovery Partition.

Sorry was unclear, I was concerned about having another Boot Entry if I did another Install. Already had done the second install and had two Entries. But that install failed, so wanted to do another to a better part of the drive, so wanted to remove the second before I installed again, so I wouldn't end up with three Entries. Repeat: My drive is failing, so I am using this as an opportunity to sharpen my Install skills to prepare for new Drive. As I can see it was a good idea lol. I am learning some basic stuff that will help a lot.

I fixed the Entry problem by just Deleting the Volume of E-Drive, which was the Volume that the second install went to. Did not have to use EasyBCD after all, but did download it for future use.

The PRUPLE32GB is just a USB.

Thanks DavidE! That is an impressive triple boot you got there, I guess it might not be yours though. Thanks for all the screenshots of EBCD that will be of help later. Hopefully I can afford a decent size Drive but it's not looking that way, so will most likely be a single boot. I need RAM also, so might have to go with a 120GB SSD.

Good for now guys, you have been a lot of help, and this forum is awesome. Should get new Drive soon and will be back!
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07 May 2016   #14
Nasty7

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AddRAM View Post
Also, look at MSconfig, what does it show there ?

The reason your boot takes so long is because you`re using a spinner, and maybe so many startup programs, you need to kill all those accept 1 AV and MBAM

Everything you don`t want to run at startup can be disabled with msconfig, or even easier done with ccleaner.
I did a bunch of cleaning with Revo and autoruns, startups look pretty lean now. Startup is much better considering hardware issues. Still need to do more but learning. The Vanilla startup was even better while it was running, but then it failed. I might try another Vanilla Install to learn more about installing drivers. I have the Driver Managers already and all drivers Backed up multiple times. Looking forward to a Vanilla install on an SSD! that should be really fast.

Nasty7
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07 May 2016   #15
DavidE

Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64
 
 

Yea, i misundertood, i thought you already had 3 Windows boot entries.

Look at Minitool Partition Wizard to see what it shows for Status.
That might clearly show where your bootloader is located.
Your Recovery Partiton might have recovery utilites (and the bootloader).
You would have to research what it is used for, for your PC make/model at the manufacturer support site.

DM and PW have different meanings for the same "status word", so it makes it confusing.

i.e.

DM Status
- Boot = the partition Windows is running on
- System = the partition the bootloader is on

PW Status
- Boot = the partition the bootloader is on
- System = the partition Windows is running on

My screen prints in post #10 are from my PC.
I can post screen prints of DM and PW if that will help you.
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08 May 2016   #16
Nasty7

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DavidE View Post
Yea, i misundertood, i thought you already had 3 Windows boot entries.

Look at Minitool Partition Wizard to see what it shows for Status.
That might clearly show where your bootloader is located.
Your Recovery Partiton might have recovery utilites (and the bootloader).
You would have to research what it is used for, for your PC make/model at the manufacturer support site.

DM and PW have different meanings for the same "status word", so it makes it confusing.

I can post screen prints of DM and PW if that will help you.
I will do this in Minitool! Yes "Recovery and bootloader" on that Recovery Paritition, it's all a bit confusing to non-techie's like me. I was assuming the Recovery had the bootloader because it is always marked as "Active".

"DM and PW": Yes, confusing to say the least lol.

"I can post screen prints of DM and PW": Really appreciate that but I think I'm all good for now. I just need more money and more practive lol. I'm booting straight into W7 as a single boot now after Deleting the "Volume" of the Practice Install Partition. There was a really Bad Sector there somewhere so it failed, and could not even reinstall to it. This was a second hand drive I got for free from a friend so all is not lost. No important data etc.

I recently realized that I had an old laptop laying around that is pretty low mileage. It has poor hardware and is quite old, xp, single core cpu, amd graphics(and not the popular one)no sound etc. I never thought that the HDD would be compatible with the one on this Modern Toshiba, but it is. For now, I think I will use it and see how it goes. This time of course will just do a single boot with Vanilla W7, that's all I really need for now. The HDD is only 80GB anyhow, so think I'll learn some more with this old HDD and then try to get an SSD when I got all the install stuff learned.

This is a great forum, being Windows 7 Specific is truly awesome!
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08 May 2016   #17
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

Good, you should start learning how to use the PW Boot CD, I use it to setup any new OS drive.

Create 1 primary partition out of the entire drive, Format it NTFS, mark it Active and Align it, it`s a great tool, and you end up with 1 partition, no System Reserved partition (unneeded anyway) once you learn to use it you can go crazy

https://www.partitionwizard.com/part...otable-cd.html
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12 May 2016   #18
Nasty7

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AddRAM View Post
Good, you should start learning how to use the PW Boot CD, I use it to setup any new OS drive.

Create 1 primary partition out of the entire drive, Format it NTFS, mark it Active and Align it, it`s a great tool, and you end up with 1 partition, no System Reserved partition (unneeded anyway) once you learn to use it you can go crazy

https://www.partitionwizard.com/part...otable-cd.html
That is a good tip AddRAM! You don't think there is any advantage to have the System Reserved Partition?

For some reason I was thinking it was for Boot Files only but that is not true is it?

Thanks, Nasty7
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