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Windows 7: Bootmgr not on C: drive with OS, on secondary HDD - Possible to fix?

22 May 2016   #1
Shasta11

Windows 7 64bit
 
 
Bootmgr not on C: drive with OS, on secondary HDD - Possible to fix?

New Edit -

Hello all.

So I used the EasyBCD and it moved over the boot to C:/ like recommended here.

I then made sure windows boots off SSD.

Problem is I can't remove F as active nor can I delete the bootmgr file in F: drive because it states it's in use, which makes me wonder how if I'm supposedly booting from C: now.

Also, when I wen't into f8 and to repair to see what it listed as the os drive it freaking says F: still not C:

Little lost on what to do now since F still has active and has the boot folder and bootmgr file that I can't delete.




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22 May 2016   #2
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

You have to unplug every drive except for Disk 2 (C) then run startup repair until C boots on it`s own.

Disk 2 has to be marked Active before it will accept the system files.

Partition - Mark as Active

Startup Repair

When done mark any other drive inactive.

And move Disk 2 (C) to the number 1 sata port on the motherboard.

For some reason your games drive is also marked Active and also has a page file on it, it should not have either.

The reason this happened is because you did not unplug all the other drives when you installed windows on disk 2
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22 May 2016   #3
Shasta11

Windows 7 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AddRAM View Post
You have to unplug every drive except for Disk 2 (C) then run startup repair until C boots on it`s own.

Disk 2 has to be marked Active before it will accept the system files.

Partition - Mark as Active

Startup Repair

When done mark any other drive inactive.

And move Disk 2 (C) to the number 1 sata port on the motherboard.

For some reason your games drive is also marked Active and also has a page file on it, it should not have either.

The reason this happened is because you did not unplug all the other drives when you installed windows on disk 2
Oh, ok. That makes sense. May I ask, because while I was waiting I was trying to read up on this and found a site that claimed I could use BCDBoot commands through admin control prompt. Is this another method as well, since I don't have W7 disk to repair install?

I'll quote from the website:



C:\windows\system32>bcdboot /?

Bcdboot - Bcd boot file creation and repair tool.

The bcdboot.exe command-line tool is used to copy critical boot files to the
system partition and to create a new system BCD store.

bcdboot <source> [/l <locale>] [/s <volume-letter>] [/v]
[/m [{OS Loader ID}]]

source Specifies the location of the windows system root.

/l Specifies an optional locale parameter to use when
initializing the BCD store. The default is US English.

/s Specifies an optional volume letter parameter to designate
the target system partition where boot environment files are

copied. The default is the system partition identified by
the firmware.

/v Enables verbose mode.

/m If an OS loader GUID is provided, this option merges the
given loader object with the system template to produce a
bootable entry. Otherwise, only global objects are merged.


Examples: bcdboot c:\windows /l en-us
bcdboot c:\windows /s h:
bcdboot c:\windows /m {d58d10c6-df53-11dc-878f-00064f4f4e08}
This means that I could type this from an Administrator Command Prompt:

bcdboot c:\windows /s c:

And BCDBoot would basically re-gen the BCD stuff I needed on the C: drive given what it knows about the C:\Windows install.
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22 May 2016   #4
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Page files had to be moved to the non "C" partition and put on "F" partition.
I have no idea why one would do that.
Could someone explain the reasoning behind doing such a thing?
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22 May 2016   #5
derekimo

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
Page files had to be moved to the non "C" partition and put on "F" partition.
I have no idea why one would do that.
Could someone explain the reasoning behind doing such a thing?
Looks like it's on every drive, and since the first line is,

Quote:
So I've found a problem that I didn't know existed until I booted from a USB recently. I can only assume something messed up a long time ago when I used a migrate to SSD software back when I got my SSD.
I doubt it is something they were aware of much less know why.
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22 May 2016   #6
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

You are right Derek, it is on every drive.

I didn't know it could be done without the owner/operator directing Windows 7 to do it.
You are saying some how it was done with out the owner/operators knowledge.

Is it possible to explain how. I would like to know so I don't make such a mistake.
Well a mistake in my opinion with my limited knowledge.
I do like to learn things.

Shasta11 might also like to know how it happened.
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22 May 2016   #7
DavidE

Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64
 
 

I believe the bootloader that is used is on the Disk 1 / System Reserved partition.
NO Drive letter, so it can't be seen in Windows (file) Explorer, and that's ok.
In the screen print in post #1 System Reserved is the System / Active partition.

A simpler way to move the boot code to C might be this:
Bootmgr - Move to C:\ with EasyBCD
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22 May 2016   #8
derekimo

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
You are right Derek, it is on every drive.

I didn't know it could be done without the owner/operator directing Windows 7 to do it.
You are saying some how it was done with out the owner/operators knowledge.

Is it possible to explain how. I would like to know so I don't make such a mistake.
Well a mistake in my opinion with my limited knowledge.
I do like to learn things.

Shasta11 might also like to know how it happened.
Why don't you let the original subject get answered before sidetracking to the next.

I don't know how it happened I was pointing out that they didn't know they had any problem to begin with.

I'm sure they would like to know but the question at hand is moving the bootmanager.
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22 May 2016   #9
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

I will do as you suggested and drop the subject.
If anybody knows just PM me.

I should of paid more attention to this. Sorry for my short sightedness.

Who are we to query? Let's focus on solving the issue. ~ Golden


I will go back to watching and learning.
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25 May 2016   #10
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

Forgot to mention you can make a system/startup repair disc from your PC, you need a blank CD and a CD burner.


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