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Windows 7: Installing new SSD & keeping Win7 on HDD

18 Jun 2016   #11
7isntheaven

Windows 7 HP x64
 
 
System reserved part

C: is the new 512GB SSD with Windows 7 which I now use. I have over-provisioned it for 10% (default). I formatted it to ntfs & partitioned it by using diskpart commands by hitting Shift/F10 during the OS install before installing the OS, because I didn't want a separate part for 'system reserved', but how can I tell if the E: system reserved part is indeed the one that is safe to delete that was for the Win7 boot on the F: drive? I know it should be because it was there before installing new ssd, but in disk management I cannot find out how or where to check if the E: is indeed for the F: hdd os boot part?

What I want to do, now that I'm satisfied that the new SSD is stable is delete E: & F: then extend the G: to it's full 1TB size in disk management. And is there a way to tell for certain that the E:system reserved is for the F: hdd part os boot?




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18 Jun 2016   #12
DavidE

Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64
 
 

Everything looks good for booting with only Disk 0 connected.
To be absolutely sure, can you turn off the PC, disconnect Disk 1, re-boot, and make sure it boots and runs Windows with Disk 0 only ?

Personally i would extend C to include all the unallocated space.
10% free space is the minimum before getting a warning.
I would not let my OS drive get down to 20% free space before doing something.
MS updates will use space, so for the next Patch Tuesday updates, expect to have less than 10%.
I don't store User data on my C drive.
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18 Jun 2016   #13
ignatzatsonic

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E is "system reserved" in name only---because that's the name originally assigned to it. It is no longer your system partition. If you kept it, you could give it some other name.

Your system partition is C. It says "system" in the description beside it. That means it contains your boot files--which had previously been on E.

As long as the PC will boot with only C connected, you look to be in good shape.
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18 Jun 2016   #14
7isntheaven

Windows 7 HP x64
 
 

Thanks for the quick replies. David, you said "Personally i would extend C to include all the unallocated space. 10% free space is the minimum before getting a warning." That is for over-provisioning the SSD in the Samsung Magician software, so I would not want to change it because it allows improved performance and extends the life of the sdd, correct? What do you mean by 'before getting a warning'? And as I asked, can I now safely delete E: & F: and then extend the new unallocated spaces into G: partition using disk management to have the whole part as the original 1Tb WD hdd, since I will not be using the hdd as any boot drive?
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18 Jun 2016   #15
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

512 GB for an OS drive is overkill in my opinion, but what`s done is done.

I would leave the unallocated space alone, I dedicated 18.75 GB on my 850 256 GB (C is 220 GB) for over provisioning, but as long as you have free space, you`re good.

If you have some place to temporarily store the data from Disk 1, I would format the entire drive, then put your data back on.

Or just delete E and F and extend G, like you`ve said

Windows will/might not let you format the System Reserved partition because it`s marked active, it must be marked inactive, use Partition Wizard to do that, you can install it on your ssd and do it.

https://www.partitionwizard.com/free...n-manager.html

As David said in post #12, your new OS on the SSD must boot on it`s own. From the DM shot it looks good.
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18 Jun 2016   #16
DavidE

Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 7isntheaven View Post
What do you mean by 'before getting a warning'?
In Windows (file) Explorer if a partition is RED that's the warning i see.
There may be better ways to get a warning, but i check my space often enough in Explorer, so this works for me.
I copied enough to my Data partition to show this warning - this partition now has less than 10% free space.

My print below is while Running Win 10, so I clicked on "This PC".
In Win 7 open Windows (file) Explorer and click on "Computer" to see a similar display.

If you see RED, it's a warning.
For an OS partition, some programs may not work correctly, or at all, with less than 10% free space.

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18 Jun 2016   #17
7isntheaven

Windows 7 HP x64
 
 

Thanks, I should never get to the point where it shows red, I'm just installing limited programs & data to the OS part & monitor it daily. Is the system reserved part still marked 'active' because I simply disconnected it when installing Win7 on the new ssd? And can't I simply use an elevated command prompt & use diskpart commands to mark it inactive before I delete & expand it through disk management?
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18 Jun 2016   #18
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

Most likely you can mark it inactive in Disk Management.

If it was marked active at one time, I think it will remain marked active until you deliberately mark it inactive.

It's not going to become active just because you disconnected it when you installed Windows 7 on an SSD.
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18 Jun 2016   #19
7isntheaven

Windows 7 HP x64
 
 

I couldn't mark it as inactive in DM, 'mark as active' was the only option in there. I did get it marked as inactive using the diskpart inactive command at the prompt. I rebooted & all is well. The SSD & OS is stable (a week running now) & the performance increase (boot times, opening programs, browsing, etc.) really is jaw-dropping compared to the sata HDD. I did go from IGP to a 950 GTX and installed 8GB more RAM before installing the new SSD a week earlier, so my 5+ year old mobo/system seems (to me) like it's brand new now. I guess by the time I get Win7 tweaked & know it like the back of my hand, it'll be time to move on once again.

Would you all just back up the data on the HDD & use diskpart clean command on it to remove all traces of the OS & system reserved parts or will just deleting & expanding them both into G: remove all traces of the OS? DavidE mentioned earlier that just deleting OS & system reserved parts instead of reformatting will not get rid of 'all' traces & may cause problems if I decide use it to boot/dual-boot with in the future? Thanks again.
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18 Jun 2016   #20
ignatzatsonic

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Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

If it gives you peace of mind, use clean. It takes only a few seconds.

If you are extra extra worried, use clean all instead of clean. It will take a few hours.
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