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Windows 7: Installing new SSD & keeping Win7 on HDD

18 Jun 2016   #21
7isntheaven

Windows 7 HP x64
 
 

I just wanted to know if deleting the E: & F: partitions using DM will remove all traces of the boot & system files completely & then extend them into G: instead of backing up the G: part & using the clean command, etc. then copying everything back.


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18 Jun 2016   #22
ignatzatsonic

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Deleting partitions will delete the partitions. Nothing more.

Some code outside of the partitions will remain.

If you are worried about that code, use clean all. Clean very occasionally isn't enough.

It's a matter of how anxious it makes you to not do a clean all and worry about something left behind.

Even with clean all, a forensic specialist may well find something left behind. More anxiety.

There are tools that will do a Department Of Defense level cleansing, which may take days to complete. If that isn't enough, you'd have to just discard the drive and use another one.

Choose the one that let's you sleep well.
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18 Jun 2016   #23
DavidE

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CLEAN ALL is not needed. That is overkill unless you are doing something illegal.
CLEAN ALL will wipe the HD and over-write every sector with zeroes.

The CLEAN command will delete the MBR (bootloader) on that HD.
You can't do that with a normal partition delete, or format.

When I reuse a HD, I always do a CLEAN.

That way I know there is no old bootloader code remaining on the HD that MIGHT cause problems someday/somehow.
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18 Jun 2016   #24
AddRAM

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Just making those partitions unallocated space is enough, you don`t have to worry about it. As long as you don`t have government secrets on your hard drive, you`ll be fine.

Your idea of deleting E and F and expanding G is fine, but I`m pretty sure you`ll have to do it with Partition Wizard, because those partitions are to the left of G.

Cross that bridge when you come to it.

But Ignatz is also correct, a drive can never actually be truly wiped, data just gets written over.

You can not use the clean command on that drive or you will loose the data on your G partition, just delete E and F and combine the space with G, there`s nothing more to worry about.
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22 Jun 2016   #25
7isntheaven

Windows 7 HP x64
 
 
Done deal

Disk manager would allow me to extend the deleted parts, but is said it would change the disk from simple to dynamic, which I'm unfamiliar with, so I just used the diskpart clean command & reformatted/parted it and all is good to go. SSD is outstanding. Thanks for all the help everyone, very much appreciated.


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22 Jun 2016   #26
DavidE

Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64
 
 

That's great you got it working and are happy

Are you saying (DM screen print) you now have 47.69 GB unallocated (unusable) space on Disk 0 and can't add it to C without converting to Dynamic ?

Don't convert to Dynamic, that can cause problems !

I wouldn't want 47.69 GB unusable, but that's me and my "attitude", I'd want to figure out why and how
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22 Jun 2016   #27
7isntheaven

Windows 7 HP x64
 
 

Hey David, on the HDD partitions i deleted & tried to expand is when I got the Windows prompt about changing to dynamic. That's when I used the clean command to start over from scratch. The 47Gb of unallocated on the SSD is the over-provisioning (10%) that the Samsung Magician software allows you to use (it's all optional) to optimize & improve performance of the SSD.
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22 Jun 2016   #28
AddRAM

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Over provisioning is fine, but as long as you always have plenty of free space, you are fine.

Mine


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