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Windows 7: replacing dead laptop HDD with new SSD

04 Jul 2016   #1
djrobison22

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 
replacing dead laptop HDD with new SSD

My hard drive on my Dell Studio 1745 running Windows 7 SP1 has died and will not boot. I purchased an SSD and want to know if I need to align or do anything other than remove the dead HDD replace it with the SSD and run boot with the Windows Installation CD that came with my laptop.

Thanks,

djrobison22


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04 Jul 2016   #2
Eric3742

Windows 7 x64
 
 

Hi djrobison22

Do read

SSD - Install and Transfer the Operating System

If you do not know then post here for someone may provide you the answer.

Hope this help you.
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05 Jul 2016   #3
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP
 
 

What you mean by dead? It's a hardware or software failure? I suppose you already tried to do a boot repair.
To install Win7 on the SSD, just take off the HDD, place in the SSD and do a install formatting the SSD. Windows will align it.
After installation:
TRIM
Type this cmd
fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify

It will give you one of two results, either a 0 or a 1. A zero indicates that TRIM is enabled correctly, a one means that it is not. If you have a TRIM-compatible SSD, but find that Windows 7 hasn't enabled the command, you can easily do so by running this command:
fsutil behavior set DisableDeleteNotify 0

Tweaks
Windows 7 - Ultimate SSD Speed Tweaks
Windows 7 SSD Tweaking Guide
Windows 7 and SSDs: Setup secrets and tune-up tweaks | ZDNet
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06 Jul 2016   #4
djrobison22

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 
replacing dead laptop HDD with a new SSD

Apparently myself and one of the experts on this site got a little ahead of ourselves although the suggestion was made to me to run SeaTools to verify the health of the hard drive. I did run it and the drive passed without any errors but there was something preventing my computer from starting up on its own. I am attaching the Startup Repair log for you to look at and maybe you could shed some light on this issue. I did notice when I was copying files from the laptop in System Recovery mode that my main drive which is usually C: was listed as D: and my optical drive (usually D:) was listed as C:. I do not know if this could prevent the computer from starting up on its own or how it even happened but again maybe the Startup Repair log will tell us something.

I appreciate your links to all the tutorials for my switch to an SSD and I have downloaded them and read them at least 2 other times prior to tonight so I am very confident I will be able to complete this successfully and am extremely confident that I will have plenty of support if things go awry.

FYI I purchased Drive Copy from Paragon so I don't think I need to worry about many of the manual steps for the migration that you have discussed but I would like to know if there is anything in particular that I need to watch out for that Drive Copy may not be doing or explaining in great enough detail.

I have just two more issues: I am switching my HDD on my Sony VAIO All In One (VPCL137FX) to a 250 GB Samsung 850 EVO and I do not have the original Windows Installation disks as this computer was given to me by a friend who cannot find them. Having the Recovery partition has proven invaluable a couple of times when I first got the computer and discovered how very little common sense my friend has when it comes to computers and I ended up having to to a complete recovery back to factory settings. When I migrate is it necessary for me to keep the recovery partition or is there any way to create installation disks of my own. I do have the product key and my version of Windows is legal but not downloadable through the Microsoft website.

Lastly, just how important is it to to the Optimize for Windows Reinstallation on both computers? That process seems a little daunting but also something I should do sooner than later if I am going to do it at all.

Thanks for the great support you all provide in these forums...i don't know how I would stay sane with out it!


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File Type: docx Startup Repair log from disk 20160705.docx (13.7 KB, 3 views)
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06 Jul 2016   #5
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP
 
 

Almost all laptops have a factory recovery partition that can be setup on BIOS, and on Windows, generate a recovery disk (DVD or pendrive). By BIOS or by disk method, it formats the disk and uses an image to recovery to the original system. I’ve already tried to use the DVD’s to have the system installed on a SSD. As the SSD was smaller than the original HDD, it didn’t work. So I’ve backed up the user files, restore to factory default and then cloned the disk, resizing windows partition and discarding the factory recovery partition.
So, once you have already generated an installation disk (DVD’s or pendrive), there is no reason to copy the factory recovery partition to the SSD.
If you do have the BIOS factory recovery, you can recovery many times. To make the recovery disks, normally it is allowed to do only once (no sense). This counter can be reset, but as it is stored on the hidden recovery partition and it is tricky.

On the Dell Studio 1745:
Is the HDD original (hardware and software) that came with the laptop?
Does the BIOS have an option to restore to factory default?
Was the Startup Repair log generated by SeaTools or by means of Win 7 install disk on repair mode?
By the Startup Repair log, apparently, your drive is working without any failure (hardware).
With a Win 7 install disk, did you already tried to do a boot repair?
In Bios, is your HDD fist booting option?
What you want to do?
- Repair the HDD and then clone it to the SSD?
- Do a fresh install on the SSD?

On the VAIO:
As you already did a factory recover, from windows, I would first generate a recovery disk (DVD or pendrive) and then clone the HHD to the SSD discarding the factory recovery partition.
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06 Jul 2016   #6
Eric3742

Windows 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Megahertz07 View Post
Almost all laptops have a factory recovery partition that can be setup on BIOS, and on Windows, generate a recovery disk (DVD or pendrive). By BIOS or by disk method, it formats the disk and uses an image to recovery to the original system. Iíve already tried to use the DVDís to have the system installed on a SSD. As the SSD was smaller than the original HDD, it didnít work. So Iíve backed up the user files, restore to factory default and then cloned the disk, resizing windows partition and discarding the factory recovery partition.
So, once you have already generated an installation disk (DVDís or pendrive), there is no reason to copy the factory recovery partition to the SSD.
If you do have the BIOS factory recovery, you can recovery many times. To make the recovery disks, normally it is allowed to do only once (no sense). This counter can be reset, but as it is stored on the hidden recovery partition and it is tricky.

What djrobison22 mentioned is that the Hard disk has died.

There is no way to do recovery as it is inside the dead hard disk.
I did know about that as i did used it on my laptop, it went to recovery what the just pull out the power.
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06 Jul 2016   #7
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP
 
 

His drive isn't dead. It just can't boot, as you can see on Startup Repair log
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06 Jul 2016   #8
Eric3742

Windows 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Megahertz07 View Post
His drive isn't dead. It just can't boot, as you can see on Startup Repair log
But the problem why on booting, it should have an option to do recovery.

As i tested mine, i just turn off without using shutdown.
Upon start, there is an option to do system repair /recovery, which it will auto run the repair.

Funny thing is, why there is no prompt for system repair /recovery upon turn on.

Most probably something is missed out.
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06 Jul 2016   #9
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP
 
 

Eric, there are two kinds of recovery:
- Windows recovery uses a restore point to undo system changes by reverting the computer to a previous restore point.
- By Bios or by DVD, you format the HDD and load an image that restore to factory default.
If the laptop isn't booting you can't use Windows recovery.
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07 Jul 2016   #10
Eric3742

Windows 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Megahertz07 View Post
Eric, there are two kinds of recovery:
- Windows recovery uses a restore point to undo system changes by reverting the computer to a previous restore point.
- By Bios or by DVD, you format the HDD and load an image that restore to factory default.
If the laptop isn't booting you can't use Windows recovery.

Thanks.
Actually i was referring to djrobison22 computer.
That is i had just tested on turn off computer without shutdown.
After turn on, it went to repair mode, as i was playing and it did work.
But his did not work, that is why i wonder.
Anyway, I did use the system restore several times.
Most of my backup i use clone using O&O DiskImage to another HDD, reguarly, of which it is bootable in Windows.
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