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Windows 7: How to install Windows 7 on Skylake Dell XPS 8910

21 Oct 2016   #51
SIW2

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Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

He has downgrade rights, and the Dell iso comes with a key for that purpose. If it is activated, that is what he is entitled to.

I don't think they do an Ult version of the Dell recovery media. If he wants to use Ultimte, he will have to :

1. get a product key

2. Either add the necesary drivers and updates to Ultimate install.wim, boot.wim, and winre.wim.

OR see if changing the Edition now on the installed Pro will work ( it should do , but will still need an Ult key ).

Here are the required updates and drivers:

Windows6.1-KB2990941-v3-x64. (for nvme)
Windows6.1-KB3087873-v2-x64. ( for nvme)
kb2732500-v2 ( system restore - probably optional)
iaStorAC.inf
iusb3hcs.inf ( DriverVer=09/25/2015,4.0.2.42 )
iusb3hub.inf
iusb3xhc.inf
nusb3hub.inf
nusb3xhc.inf


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AddRAM View Post
You are technically allowed to use keys from other machines, only a Retail key can be used on any PC, but that`s still only 1 PC at any given time.



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21 Oct 2016   #52
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

Please re read my post, I messed up there when I said that, so I fixed it

He can not use the key from any other PC unless it is Retail. And of course only 1 PC at any given time.

Ya, I don`t understand why he`s not happy with W10 Pro, or downgrading it to W7 Pro, there`s no reason to install Ultimate.

He should be on the phone with Dell, they should give him full support with his new Dell PC.
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21 Oct 2016   #53
tigpoppa

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

You are correct Dell says this model has downgrade rights from Windows 10 pro, to Windows 7 pro. The computer right now seems to have 3 recovery partitions and one that is used as Windows 10, suspect the others are Windows 7 pro from the pictures above but unsure how to get to them, or if that is possible?

Not worried about getting a key for Windows 7 ultimate pretty sure I can just buy it thought the OS at activation should the other keys not work one of which was stamped on the back of the machine with some kind of microsoft sticker. Before purchasing it, have to see if it works and it installs or else it would be just burning money hence this thread to get it installed, getting a key should be the easy part I hope, even with the big push from MS to windows 10 I hope there is still a way to get Win7 keys.

Note: When installed a Dell OEM Windows 7 pro as a test to an HDD on the machine it did not auto activate. Are they supposed to auto activate? Or is there some "official" way I missed of downgrading it? Read somewhere about the keys being in the UEFI, not sure what that means though.
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21 Oct 2016   #54
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

You will not find a Windows Ultimate key anywhere, and if it was legitimate you would pay an outrageous price, there is no reason to buy Ultimate.

As I said, you should be on the phone with Dell and they should help you downgrade the PC to Windows 7 Pro.
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21 Oct 2016   #55
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

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Quote:
Note: When installed a Dell OEM Windows 7 pro as a test to an HDD on the machine it did not auto activate. Are they supposed to auto activate? Or is there some "official" way I missed of downgrading it? Read somewhere about the keys being in the UEFI, not sure what that means though.
There is the rub.

The Dell recovery isos contain the product key and xml file which require slic table in bios.

Seems there is no slic on your machine.

Best Option:

You will need a key that activates online. Dell may provide one if you hassle them - you are entitled to downgrade, so there must be a way to get that key - it will be for Pro.


Note:

If you really want Ult, you will need an Ult key. You should be able to use one from another machine in this scenario, tho you may need to call MS. Do you have an Ult key on another machine?
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21 Oct 2016   #56
tigpoppa

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
Quote:
Note: When installed a Dell OEM Windows 7 pro as a test to an HDD on the machine it did not auto activate. Are they supposed to auto activate? Or is there some "official" way I missed of downgrading it? Read somewhere about the keys being in the UEFI, not sure what that means though.
Best Option:

You will need a key that activates online. Dell may provide one if you hassle them - you are entoled to downgrade, so there must be a way to get that key - it will be for Pro.

Note:

If you really want Ult, you will need an Ult key. You can use one from another machine in this scenario, tho you may need to call MS if it doesn't activate by itself. Do you have an Ult key on another machine?
Have a bunch of machines currently used and unused from Dell to Alienware in storage all windows 7 ultimate, their not out of date yet entirely. This is the first and only machine I have with Windows 10. Just happen to upgrade machines pretty quick hence the immediate purchase of a dell XPS 8910 fresh off the product line. Or I just buy a key, keys are available to buy which makes that a non issue. This skylake issue is the one thing preventing me from purchasing a new alienware since they would face the same issue

The issue is getting it installed period to test if it works satisfactorily with the components of the 8910. Contacting dell tech about the issue may prove fruitless since I am unsure if any skylake machine made by dell had Windows 7 ultimate. It seems Dell tech at least online have no solution I can find in any knowledgebase article regarding Ultimate but there are articles about win7pro on skylake and a Dell win7 Pro iso created using all the correct drivers for my system which is good. So far I have not had much luck finding the same thing from Dell with Win7 Ultimate, it may be out there but I havent found it yet due to maybe using the wrong search terms? I think there are still some options worth testing here or trying to get Windows 7 ultimate to work? Would like to explore those options until exhausted, it may be a waste of time to some, but for me I see it as more of a challenge like a puzzle to figure out.

Keep in mind, buying a key is easy, it does not make anything magically work, I really wish it was that easy because I would have done that first. A key does not make the USB 3.1 magically get recognized or force intel to see the NVME drive or the USB 2.0 ports, its just a key, it is not a working iso, and microsoft as far as I can tell has no working iso for windows ultimate with usb 3.1 and NVME drivers to allow it to be installed, maybe there is one but I have not found an official or unofficial link as of yet sadly. Maybe this is due to the move at Microsoft towards providing better existing support for Windows 10 users which would make sense to cut back on support for past OS's like Windows 7? (The whole USB issue with 2.0 ports not being seen seems to be a skylake only issue due to the type of host controller I think or something like that, not an expert there. If it did work though then the win 7 pro disk would work as you suggested but sadly doesnt only the win 7 pro iso from dell with the special drivers works.)

*Ideally would like to install windows 7 ultimate, the problem is during the install process it stops saying the machine has the wrong product key without giving me an option to enter a product key so again a key wouldnt help here. The Pro iso does install so far so maybe there is a way to work with that or access the windows windows 7 OS currently on the computer? Would getting to the windows 7 os the computer came installed with be possible? Pictures above show something is there just not sure how to access it.
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21 Oct 2016   #57
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

If you have regular Ultimate install media, you can integrate the updates and drivers into boot.wim ( image 2 ) and Install.wim ( image 4).

Should then be able to install normally, adding key later.
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21 Oct 2016   #58
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 



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21 Oct 2016   #59
tigpoppa

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
If you have regular Ultimate install media, you can integrate the updates and drivers into boot.wim ( image 2 ) and Install.wim ( image 4).

Should then be able to install normally, adding key later.
Will try this today, thanks for the suggestion. Not seeing image 2 or image 4, are they missing or earlier in the thread? Thanks for the drivers adding them should not be to bad I think.

*Tomorrow I call Dell Tech support worried they might have me wipe the drive since I need to make windows 10 recovery media and keep getting an error since there are 2 os's present. Is it possible to access the windows 7 that appears to have come preinstalled on the computer? Tried the normal windows 10 downgrade screen but the option is not there. Would like to try that before dell just tells me to delete them so I can make win10 recovery media which I fear they might do :P

*I did download the win10 pro media creation tool, so I guess at least I have something for recovery media to reset it. They did tell me the OS is stored in the motherboard but I dont know what that means or if that is even possible?
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21 Oct 2016   #60
tigpoppa

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AddRAM View Post
Let us know if you need to download a Windows Pro or Ultimate 64 bit iso file and which language and we will gladly post the direct Microsoft download link.
Does or did Microsoft ever make a Windows 7 ultimate ISO with the usb drivers and NVME drivers for install? Or maybe dell? If have a link would very much appreciate. Been looking but only thing official found so far is Dell Windows 7 pro iso with the drivers which does work.
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