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Windows 7: MS-6585 motherboard installation

26 Dec 2009   #1

Windows XP SP3 32 bit
 
 
MS-6585 motherboard installation

I am trying to instal Windows 7 Professional (MS upgrade disc) on an elderly (2002) machine which has an MSI-6585 (aka 648 Max) motherboard. It has 2Gb RAM, Seagate 250Gb hard drive and nVidia 7800GS graphics card. The current OS is XP SP3.

The system passes the Windows Upgrade Advisor tests with no problems.

Having read somewhere that the board is unable to recognise the boot sector of the Win 7 DVD, I followed the suggestion to create a new DVD using the boot sector of a Vista DVD - but all to no avail.

MSI says simply that the motherboard is too old for Windows 7. Maybe I shall have to accept this, but I should be interested to hear of others experiences with this board, which I think was quite common at one time.

All suggestions gratefully received!

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26 Dec 2009   #2
Microsoft MVP

 

Try running the DVD from the XP desktop, if it will run then overwrite XP or install to a second partition.

What are the exact errors or symptoms you get when you try to boot the DVD and Custom install with formatting?

Try tapping the Fkey given on the first bootup screen for Boot Menu. Or use the Fkey to enter
BIOS setup and set DVD drive to boot first.
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26 Dec 2009   #3

Windows XP SP3 32 bit
 
 
Symptoms

I realise I should have given a little more information about the problem.

On each occasion so far I have attempted to do a custom installation from the XP desktop. Setup copies files, then starts expanding them. It reaches 27% - always 27% - then says it requires a reboot. After the reboot the system tries to load Windows 7 but freezes on the 'Starting Windows' screen at the point where the four windows merge into the Windows logo.

Having researched the MS Technet I suspected that this behaviour was connected to the error 'Code 5 - cannot boot from CD/DVD' which appears briefly. Reports attribute this to an incompatibility between Win 7 and certain MSI motherboards. Unfortunately creating a new ISO image with a Vista boot sector does not solve the problem. MSI simply says the motherboard is too old.
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27 Dec 2009   #4
Microsoft MVP

 

In that case try booting from the DVD to do a Custom install, using Drive tools to format first.

If you are not prompted to "hit any key to boot from CD/DVD drive" at bootup, then restart and look for F-key given on first bootup screen to enter Boot Menu where you can select DVD drive.
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27 Dec 2009   #5

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Without offending you in any way, I'd like to insert my personal opinion about MSI boards. I think they are total junk and I would take this as a sign to change it out. Every time I had a computer with an MSI board, I eventually had some crazy problems because random components on the board just unexpectedly died.

Alternatively, you can always try booting from a Flash Drive using the instructions referenced here:

HP netbook with win 7 starter
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27 Dec 2009   #6

Windows XP SP3 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
In that case try booting from the DVD to do a Custom install, using Drive tools to format first.

If you are not prompted to "hit any key to boot from CD/DVD drive" at bootup, then restart and look for F-key given on first bootup screen to enter Boot Menu where you can select DVD drive.
OK, so this is what happened:

I formatted the C: drive. I then tried to boot from the Windows 7 DVD, and got a general boot failure. So then I used the DVD I created using ImgBurn, which uses the Vista boot sector. I got 'Windows is loading files', followed by 'Starting Windows' which froze just before the four coloured blobs coalesced into the Windows logo. Big red switch time again. I'm beginning to think that the upgrade to Windows 7 is truly impossible on this machine, so unless anyone has any brilliant new ideas I think I shall have to stick with XP until its dying day. I've been reluctant to give up, having gone to the trouble and expense of installing extra memory, larger hard disk and the best graphics card I could find for the AGP slot - but life's too short.
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27 Dec 2009   #7
Microsoft MVP

 

What did you use to format the drive? Use booted Windows 7 DVD Custom Drive tools to make sure formatting is compatible.

Try taking out the extra memory, then video card to see if it will install.

If this fails, then consider putting the HD into another computer to install Windows 7. I do this when I cannot get DVD or flash to boot and it always works.

It will swap out all the drivers when reinstalled, requesting several restarts, but then is ready to be activated and runs fine normally.
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27 Dec 2009   #8

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
If this fails, then consider putting the HD into another computer to install Windows 7. I do this when I cannot get DVD or flash to boot and it always works.

It will swap out all the drivers when reinstalled, requesting several restarts, but then is ready to be activated and runs fine normally.
Good tip!!
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28 Dec 2009   #9

Windows XP SP3 32 bit
 
 

Gregrocker,

I don't know why I hadn't thought about installing on another machine. I have a perfectly good Win 7 machine here. From what I recall of the installation process I should be able to instal the old XP drive as a second drive and choose to instal Win 7 to that rather than the C: drive. Whether it works or not, at least it will resolve once and for all whether the old machine can run Windows 7.

Thanks very much for your help - watch this space!
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28 Dec 2009   #10
Microsoft MVP

 

You can switch out Windows 7 HD easily enough (so far) but not so much with XP. It requires a full repair install if switched to another machine to even get it to start and may throw activation fits.

If you move a HD to another machine to install Windows 7, be sure to unplug the extant HD or it will configure a dual boot that will make Windows 7 unbootable when returned to its home computer.
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