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Windows 7: Win7 Home Premium upgrade over the RC

17 Feb 2010   #1

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Win7 Home Premium upgrade over the RC



About six months back, I bought a laptop from Toshiba that came with Vista on it. The tech guy who was helping me get all set up said that as long as I was making the learning curve from XP, I really should go right to Windows 7. Rick said he had a beta version and we could make the full switch to the full release when the free upgrade came out. Sounded fine to me.

Well, he disappeared to Colorado somewhere not long afterward, never finishing a number of parts of the job and being completely unfindable. But at least I had a nice PC to use for some things...until this week when a warning came up saying the Windows 7 Ultimate (build 7100) had 13 days left til it would expire! Rick added a bunch of customizing to the laptop and I've done a bunch more in all this time...it would be just HORRIBLE to lose it all if I had to reinstall everything on my laptop because of a new operating system installation. What's more, since the computer came with Vista on it already, I'm not sure how I'd go about reinstalling Vista even if I had to. Which I sure don't want to do!

So...

1) Is there a way to make the leap from Windows 7 Ultimate (build 7100) to any version of Windows 7 to resolve this problem without starting from scratch? Ideally, with a free upgrade or, if absolutely necessary, by buying something to do so? Seems it should be free since I paid for the laptop with Vista on it.

2) If Rick's choice to put me on Windows 7 Ultimate (build 7100) was a big mistake, how can I move forward from here when I didn't receive a Vista disk from Toshiba? I do have one that Rick left behind that says Vista Enterprise on it, but I'm not 100% sure he pulled it off my system.

Please keep in mind in your response that I'm okay around a computer but NOT a tech guru.
Thanks!



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18 Feb 2010   #2

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You do not have any disk(s) that came with you laptop??

Check to see at least if you have the recovery partition from Toshiba.. To do that you should have two drives.. C and D in the Hard drive area.Where D is usually named Recovery..

If you don't have a recovery partition, You will have to re-install Windows Vista..Do you have a key for the Vista Enterprise?? if you don't have the key for Vista it will only be active of 30 days..OR You can Buy Windows 7, But I am not sure if you can upgrade from RC to RTM (I think you can but it is not supported by Microsoft) I believe starting March 1st all Windows 7 RC versions will start shutting down every 2 hours Then eventually expire on June 1st 2010..

Hope this Helps...
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18 Feb 2010   #3
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If you buy a retail copy of any version of Windows 7, there is a workaround to do an in-place Upgrade which will keep all of your programs, files and settings in place. It is not as clean as a clean install, but those who have tried it have all reported good performance.

If you don't want to buy retail Windows 7 (I recommend Home Premium) then you would need to go back to Vista. Is there a working Recovery Parrtition on there which can be triggered by pressing some keys during bootup? You might need to contact your computer maker to order the disks.

The Vista Enterprise DVD you have can also be unlocked to an all-versions Vista installer which can be used to reinstall Vista on your computer. It will activate with the key stickered to the computer - what version is it?
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18 Feb 2010   #4

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Thank you both for your quick input. As you can imagine, I'm tempted to tour Colorado and track Rick down and tar-and-feather him for putting me in this position. Had I known that putting the RC on my computer would make it hard to go to a full normal upgrade to 7 later, I never would have agreed! I'll try to answer both of your questions.

1) I just checked the hard drive and there's no D: drive on it so that is out. Amongst a pile of disks he left me, there IS one that has Windows Enterprise handwritten on it and another that he wrote Windows 7 on. I'm guessing that the latter is the RC which won't do me any good. Not sure how I'd know if the Windows Enterprise DVD is truly made from my computer or if it's just something he had and left behind. It's probably made from my computer (he commented that they don't send DVDs anymore...that they put it on your computer and it's up to you to offload them, so that may well be it). But loading that would undo all the work that's been put into the computer, I take it.

2) As it is a handwritten DVD, even if it IS from my laptop, I'm not sure how I would know what the key would be. Would it be on the DVD itself somewhere as a txt file or something?

3) If I'm understanding Gregrocker, he says that if I buy any Window7 edition, there's a "workaround" to do an upgrade that will not destroy everything Rick set up for me and which I've customized since then, but I'm not sure what you mean by a workaround. will this be some sort of prompt that will come up asking me if I want to start from scratch vs. upgrade what's on there? Or are you talking about something more complicated than that?

4) Is there a reason you're recommending Home Premium over Ultimate, which is what the RC version I have is? I have no idea what the difference is. On eBay, I'm seeing anything from a 20 to 80 dollar difference, but I'm not sure why one would opt for more than Home Premium. Right now, I can see Home Premium at a Buy-It-Now price of $105 and there's an Ultimate for $125 (but the next one up is $180, so I may miss the boat on that while writing to you both).

5) There are SO many stickers on the bottom of the PC that I'm not sure which Greg means! One is from Toshiba with the part and serial number. Another is says "WiFi Certified" and has a code number starting with PA3613". Yet another says "Windows Vista Home Basic OEMAct TOSHIBA" and that has three different code numbers on it, including a product key with five five-character sections for 25 altogether. The last small sticker was LAN MAC and WirelessMac on it, but i don't get what that would be since this is NOT a Mac of any sort (unless this MAC stands for something else).

Right now, I'm on the fence with what you each say. If it's not TOO hard to upgrade without losing everything I've got on the laptop already, it would probably be worth $120 or so just to make it fully legit without going through Vista again and losing everything...providing it really isn't SO hard to do and it really is built into any Windows 7 that I buy. Just SUCKS that I should have to pay for it just for having tried out the RC. Is the rest of the world losing their software when they go from Vista to 7...or just us idiots who didn't know not to use the RC? ;-)
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18 Feb 2010   #5
Microsoft MVP

 

The Enterprise DVD is mostly likely for the free trial since you don't see a key.

Buy any version you want if you are confidant the key is legit. Ultimate only gives you extras Bitlocker and Remote Desktop host plus a bunch of language packs.

If given a download link, burn DVD at 4x speed with Verify using ImgBurn - it never fails.

Here is the workaround that allows an in-place Upgrade from RC. Follow the steps carefullly to type the exact version name in the registry key listed. Set a Restore Point when editing the registry:

Upgrade the Windows 7 RC to any retail version Icrontic Tech
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