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Windows 7: win 7 system reserved

06 Mar 2010   #11
noyb

XP MCE .... XP Pro 64 .... W7 U x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by panais View Post
Is there any trick to restore/recover using Norton Ghost Without the CD?
Acronis is better than Ghost .. More Popular ... and supports W7


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06 Mar 2010   #12
panais

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1
 
 

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The full story is...
I tried to create a system image....read this>---> http://www.sevenforums.com/performance-maintenance/68745-0x80780119-error.html
So i starrted to look what was the problem....
And i found this....
Windows need to have 40mb size system reserved for backup,but my system reserved is only 32mb because i installed bitdefender (this is bitdefender issue and i will contact the company)anyway...
Thats why i will like to increase the size of my system reserved if that possible.
For now i use norton ghost but i prefer windows backup.
Btw is there any trick to completely remove system reserved?
Hello panais;

The simple answer is the "System Reserved" partition is not a necessity. You can do without it.

However, in your quote above, I believe you are confusing MB to GB. The "Reserved Partition" is only 100MB in size, that is only 0.10GB. You need 20 to 30 times that to give you the room to create your backup and image, so removing the "System Reserved" partition is not going to help you there at all.

If you would do as theog suggested and post a screen shot of your drive map, perhaps we can suggest a way to give you the room for your image?

Cheers!
Robert
I insist,for some reason its necessary to have 40mb system reserved to START the backup NOT to save the backup.For saving the backup i have 2 hard disk 1.5TB each.
I have test it 3 times when my system reserved has free space 40mb and more the backup started and finish properly.And another 3 times when system reserved free space was below 40mb the backup gave me the 0x80780119 error
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06 Mar 2010   #13
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by panais View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by panais View Post
The full story is...
I tried to create a system image....read this>---> http://www.sevenforums.com/performance-maintenance/68745-0x80780119-error.html
So i starrted to look what was the problem....
And i found this....
Windows need to have 40mb size system reserved for backup,but my system reserved is only 32mb because i installed bitdefender (this is bitdefender issue and i will contact the company)anyway...
Thats why i will like to increase the size of my system reserved if that possible.
For now i use norton ghost but i prefer windows backup.
Btw is there any trick to completely remove system reserved?
If you have Norton Ghost, use it. It beats the Windows imaging hands down. I only use Ghost (on Vista) and free Macrium on Win7. I have seen people with too many problems using the Windows imaging so I prefer not to use it. Just scroll the forums and you will find what I am talking about. Windows imaging is not yet ready for prima time - nor is Windows file backup. Too much hassle.
I know I will get some fan mail because some people use it successfully. But there are always exceptions.
Is there any trick to restore/recover using Norton Ghost Without the CD?
No!! You need the recovery CD for any/all imaging programs. That is the only way to start the recovery process. But in Ghost, you can burn one yourself. i have snipped the instructions from pages 29/30 of the Ghost User Guide. I hope you can read it.

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06 Mar 2010   #14
panais

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1
 
 

I insist,for some reason its necessary to have 40mb system reserved to START the backup NOT to save the backup.For saving the backup i have 2 hard disk 1.5TB each.
I have test it 3 times when my system reserved has free space 40mb and more the backup started and finish properly.And another 3 times when system reserved free space was below 40mb the backup gave me the 0x80780119 error
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06 Mar 2010   #15
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Just remove it then. I assume you aren't using bitlocker.

It's not hard , first make your main windows partition ( probabaly C ) into the "system" partition.

sisparV5.zip

Right click sispar.cmd and Run As Admin.


Then delete the 100mb partition.

You can leave it as unallocated space, or extend the main partition left to include it, using any decent 3rd party partition manager.

Paragon Pro can do just about anything.

Partition Wizard (free) does a lot for a freebie - certainly capable of this job.

Free Download Partition Wizard


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06 Mar 2010   #16
iseeuu

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by panais View Post
I insist,for some reason its necessary to have 40mb system reserved to START the backup NOT to save the backup.For saving the backup i have 2 hard disk 1.5TB each.
I have test it 3 times when my system reserved has free space 40mb and more the backup started and finish properly.And another 3 times when system reserved free space was below 40mb the backup gave me the 0x80780119 error
OK Then here is a MS link that says: "
System Partition Requirements

Basic system partition requirements are:
  • Must have at least 100 megabytes (MB) of hard drive space.
  • Must have enough free space to create shadow copies of the partition.

    • If the partition is less than 500 MB, it must have at least 50 MB of free space."
Understanding Disk Partitions

So basically, the "Reserved System" can be 100MB or larger, even a GB!

Since the built-in Windows 7 Disk Management Utility is not capable of doing this, I would recommend you try the free Partition Wizard Utility. Down load the iso file, use Windows 7 to "burn the disc image" (so it is bootable), boot to the CD and shrink the second partition (say 100MB) and then extend the "System Reserved" partition to 200MB. Vista and the 7 Beta used a 200MB partition, so there is no reason you can't use a 200MB partition.

Hope this helps!
Robert
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06 Mar 2010   #17
panais

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1
 
 

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As you can see in Capture B my system reserved is damaged for some reason.


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06 Mar 2010   #18
iseeuu

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by panais View Post
As you can see in Capture B my system reserved is damaged for some reason.
Yes, the MINIMUM size requirement is 100MB, not 99MB?
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06 Mar 2010   #19
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Just go back one page to this post -15
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06 Mar 2010   #20
nate42nd

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

I would listen to SIW2 and delete it. If you're not using BitLocker you will never know it's gone. I install without it on all my personal installs.

Install without 100MB partition new drive
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