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10 Dec 2010
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I agree 100%. I think there is a lingering stigma as there was with XP that "pro" is better.
I had a friend actually tell me that who thought he was sharp with computers.
I asked him to tell my the difference between pro and home, and why pro is better...and he couldn't.
I use Pro at home and work ONLY because of use acceptance testing...(and I like being able to RDP into my home PC for off network testing and not having to setup VNC, etc.)...
Nothing I do at home would warrant the need for anything but Home...to be honest.
Work...obviously...need to join the domain!! | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Sytemax OS 7 Pro 64 Bit CPU 8300 Quad 2.53Ghz Motherboard Asus Memory 4GB DDR Crucial Graphics Card Intel |
10 Dec 2010
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#182 | | Windows 8 Pro with Media Center x64 Southern California, USA |

Quote: Originally Posted by dajogejr I agree 100%. I think there is a lingering stigma as there was with XP that "pro" is better. And Vista! It was worth getting pro(Home Premium), worth even ultimate for me.
they really have slimmed down features in Win 7 to the point that they don't add anything when you upgrade to pro or ultimate win 7s. Research is the key, and I obviously didn't do enough. Thought I was getting 2 operating systems, thats misleading as heck. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Inspiron M5040 OS Windows 8 Pro with Media Center x64 CPU AMD E-450 APU 1.65 GHz Memory 4GB Graphics Card Built-in Radeon HD 6320 Graphics Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mobile Mouse 3500 Cooling fan Hard Drives 500GB Internet Speed 2.86Mbps Download Speed, 2.85Mbps Upload Speed & 26ms Ping Antivirus Defender Browser IE10 |
15 Dec 2010
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#183 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by wearetheborg The OP is missing this, but it may have been mentioned in the replies:
for me the biggest plus point of Pro/Ultimate is Software Restriction Policies in Pro, and AppLocker in Ultimate (the next gen of Softrware Restriction Policies).
I consider SRP (combined with a limited user account) to be a super strong line of defense against malware.
I gather Applocker offers more functionality. 
Quote: Originally Posted by DustSailor Personally, I haven't found a true use for professional and wish I would have bought the cheaper home version. Really, what does professional give extra to home users that is really useful and worth the extra money? I can't find anything  See first quote. | My System Specs | | |
16 Dec 2010
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#184 | | Windows 8 Pro with Media Center x64 Southern California, USA |

Quote: Originally Posted by wearetheborg The OP is missing this, but it may have been mentioned in the replies:
for me the biggest plus point of Pro/Ultimate is Software Restriction Policies in Pro, and AppLocker in Ultimate (the next gen of Softrware Restriction Policies).
I consider SRP (combined with a limited user account) to be a super strong line of defense against malware.
I gather Applocker offers more functionality. Yes, and some people may well need those services, but I really can't say I do. I -only- got pro because I thought it came with xp (for games) but virtual xp isn't good with games, apparently. Sad day for me when I learned there was nothing I could do. I don't know, maybe its just a game with me trying to find the best cheapest custom computer I can. Compare 3,000$ the first time buying a computer to 1,500$ this last time. Now I'm confident all I need in the future are parts that I install, potentially only costing 300$-800$ every few years or so, depending on how big the upgrade is. I disabled most of Pro's services (as it was built for the office). All I needed was home. But its in the past, and like someone said earlier, I may need pro later. Perhaps one day I suddenly become paranoid and upgrade to ultimate, enacting all security features to lock down my computer more so than the central bank itself
*Edit* Well, unless they have Windows 7 Ultimate themselves, I suppose. Everyone seems to be upgrading to Win 7, including some parts of the military (US)
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| My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Inspiron M5040 OS Windows 8 Pro with Media Center x64 CPU AMD E-450 APU 1.65 GHz Memory 4GB Graphics Card Built-in Radeon HD 6320 Graphics Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mobile Mouse 3500 Cooling fan Hard Drives 500GB Internet Speed 2.86Mbps Download Speed, 2.85Mbps Upload Speed & 26ms Ping Antivirus Defender Browser IE10 |
16 Dec 2010
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#185 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by DustSailor Yes, and some people may well need those services, but I really can't say I do. Everyone can make use of security features.
You might have heard of the recent .lnk vulnerabilities in windows, and the search path security holes.
Software restriction policies drop all the attackers for those dead in their tracks. | My System Specs | | |
16 Dec 2010
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#186 | | Windows 8 Pro with Media Center x64 Southern California, USA |

Quote: Originally Posted by wearetheborg Everyone can make use of security features.
You might have heard of the recent .lnk vulnerabilities in windows, and the search path security holes.
Software restriction policies drop all the attackers for those dead in their tracks. This has been dealt with Microsoft Security Advisory (2286198): Vulnerability in Windows Shell Could Allow Remote Code Execution
No, honestly any more security on my system isn't worth it. Basically, if you click on to something and download a virus, its your fault. I Don't do that. You might think accidents happen, but MSE has not failed me yet. I almost didn't even bother to install it either. Just don't click on suspicious links, its really not hard. People make a bigger deal out of it than it is, and some may have a reason to. I keep personal information to myself and have no fear of it getting out. If it does, the bank has security measures in place, some of which I have enacted myself (Limits to amounts taken out, reimbursement for stolen monies). I have no fear, the biggest thing Would be a reinstall, but I enjoy that part.
I like computer systems simple, not complicated webs of encoded and encrypted software that backs up safely to mother nature's hiney. I play games, I don't run banks | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Inspiron M5040 OS Windows 8 Pro with Media Center x64 CPU AMD E-450 APU 1.65 GHz Memory 4GB Graphics Card Built-in Radeon HD 6320 Graphics Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mobile Mouse 3500 Cooling fan Hard Drives 500GB Internet Speed 2.86Mbps Download Speed, 2.85Mbps Upload Speed & 26ms Ping Antivirus Defender Browser IE10 |
23 Dec 2010
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#187 | | Win 7 Pro x64 SP1 Windows XP SP3 |

Quote: Originally Posted by DustSailor I -only- got pro because I thought it came with xp (for games) but virtual xp isn't good with games, apparently. Sad day for me when I learned there was nothing I could do. I see your point. I was disappointed when I saw that the XP mode could run XP software, but the loss in performance was still noticeable compared to a "real" XP.
By the way, back on topic: I'm not buying Windows 7 neither I bought it earlier. The Windows 7 pro copy I'm running came from MSDN Academic Alliance. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number I've made it myself :) OS Win 7 Pro x64 SP1 Windows XP SP3 CPU intel Core i7 920 Motherboard ASUS P6T Memory 6GB DDR3 Corsair XMS3 Graphics Card Sapphire ATi HD5770 Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays LG M2380DF Screen Resolution 1080p... Eventually :D Keyboard You know, that cheap USB one... Mouse See "keyboard" PSU LC Power GP3 650W Case CoolerMaster Centurion Cooling Still lots of fans :( Hard Drives If they're that hard, why do they break so often? Internet Speed Acceptable in the 80s |
23 Dec 2010
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#188 | | Win 7 Pro x64 SP1 Windows XP SP3 |
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| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number I've made it myself :) OS Win 7 Pro x64 SP1 Windows XP SP3 CPU intel Core i7 920 Motherboard ASUS P6T Memory 6GB DDR3 Corsair XMS3 Graphics Card Sapphire ATi HD5770 Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays LG M2380DF Screen Resolution 1080p... Eventually :D Keyboard You know, that cheap USB one... Mouse See "keyboard" PSU LC Power GP3 650W Case CoolerMaster Centurion Cooling Still lots of fans :( Hard Drives If they're that hard, why do they break so often? Internet Speed Acceptable in the 80s |
23 Dec 2010
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#189 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by DustSailor Just don't click on suspicious links, its really not hard. It's also not that simple. Clearly you have never been a victim of a drive by download from a website. Perhaps even a trusted website that was hacked or injected with malicious code.
So, lets say you fire up Google, and you have to do a search for AHCI. Google then returns a list of links that contain information on AHCI. So what would you do at this point? Would you only click on the ones you know are safe? Which of the links provided is safe to click on? How could you possibly know. (Aside from not going to something like http://72.13.8.85/virus.exe) | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/2 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
23 Dec 2010
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#190 | | Windows 8 Pro with Media Center x64 Southern California, USA |
Yes but thats what the antivirus is for. Most browsers refuse downloading unless you give it permission, and you can even set higher restrictions within the browser. If it gets past those defenses, than either it is a very sophisticated virus, or I allowed it to. I enjoyed firefox for a while because it had add-ons that disabled many things websites had, like adobe pop ups and scripts and many others; I am now trying IE9 beta to see how it will work out. IE is supposed to be top security, but unless IE9 drastically improves, I'm going back to firefox's flexability.
Back on topic. Really, it isn't hard. If a virus does overtake my system and I cannot get rid of it, than a simple reinstall will suffice, at least for me. I don't do work on my computer, it is only for entertainment. So I guess I am really only speaking for myself when I say I never needed pro. Someone else very well may need it, but I am in favor of keeping my system fast for games and internet only, security is nice, but too much for me is a constant pain. (Ever try buffer zone? it has to be one of the worst). Others here have purely entertainment computers as well, otherwise why would you install the best hardware out there like many of us do? If I wanted better security, I by no means would rely on Windows 7 Pro. I would buy it (Other proven security software, more than just an AV). Pro would be a nice edition, and perhaps even Ultimate if I was concerned for my system's welfare. I'm just saying I regret my decision to buy pro. I could have had a fancy dinner with the money I would have saved | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Inspiron M5040 OS Windows 8 Pro with Media Center x64 CPU AMD E-450 APU 1.65 GHz Memory 4GB Graphics Card Built-in Radeon HD 6320 Graphics Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mobile Mouse 3500 Cooling fan Hard Drives 500GB Internet Speed 2.86Mbps Download Speed, 2.85Mbps Upload Speed & 26ms Ping Antivirus Defender Browser IE10 Differences between basic and ultimate problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:56 AM. | |