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Windows 7: Boot SSD

03 May 2010   #1

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 
Boot SSD

Hi Everyone,

I got a new computer about a week ago with a boot SSD and two 750 gig hard drives in RAID-0. However, when I went through and installed all of my video games (at least 300GB) along with other big programs like Photoshop on my D:/ drive (the two 750 gigs), I began running out of space on my boot SSD! This is also where my Windows 7 Partition is, which I think is the problem. To fix this might require a format, which I am okay with.

How am I able to make it so that my computer can boot from the SSD but make it so I don't run out of space when I install programs? Can I make it so my computer boots from the SSD, but the Windows 7 Partition is on my RAID drive? I can't keep disabling features that I wish to keep on the computer (page file, hibernation) in order to make room on my SSD.

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03 May 2010   #2
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

I would move those games that are not that disk performance critical to the Raid. Removing the hibernation file is OK if you do not use hibernation. Moving or removing the page file is a big mistake. That will either negatively impact your performance and/or lead to more serious problems.
The system should stay in it's entirety (less possibly some program files) on the SSD. That's what gets you the performance.
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03 May 2010   #3

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

All of the games are on the RAID. I do use hibernation (sleep hybrid) and I already moved the page file to my RAID drive without any issues. What I want to know is if it is possible for me to install Windows on the RAID drive, while keeping the boot partition on the SSD (the system reserved partition) without sacrificing the speed of the boot? I can't use this SSD if I keep running out of room...whenever I install a program that is something like 7 to 15 gigabytes on my RAID drive, my SSD loses something like 150-400MB of room per install too.
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03 May 2010   #4
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MasterofTofu View Post
All of the games are on the RAID. I do use hibernation (sleep hybrid) and I already moved the page file to my RAID drive without any issues. What I want to know is if it is possible for me to install Windows on the RAID drive, while keeping the boot partition on the SSD (the system reserved partition) without sacrificing the speed of the SSD?
Short answer is NO. It is not only the MBR that makes the speed but the whole system on the SSD.
Maybe you should give us a bit more data:
1. How big is your SSD
2. how big is your Windows7 right now
3. How much RAM do you have (to get a better view on your page file tweak)

My Windows 7 is around 17GB since 6 months on an Intel SSD and I have many programs installed - 11.668 files (no games though). That's why I do not understand your space problem.
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03 May 2010   #5

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

My SSD is 30GB (well, 27.8GB...)
My Windows 7 is 25GB and growing
I have 6GB of RAM

My RAID hard drive has 350GB used...here is a pic of what I am looking at. Don't mind the compress drive thing, I was just messing around with it for a second.

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03 May 2010   #6
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

OK, understand.

1. With 6gbs of RAM you will most likely never really need the pagefile. So moving it does not matter one way or another.
2. Your windows is too big (my 17GBs include a 3GB pagefile). I suspect you did not disable the shadowstorage. Go into elevated command Prompt and type vssadmin list shadowstorage and tell me what the numbers on C for Allocated and Maximum are. If they are anything other than 300MB, we will fix it.
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03 May 2010   #7

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

Used shadow cop storage space: 210.891 MB (0%)
Allocated shadow copy storage space: 320 MB (1%)
Maximum shadow copy storage space: 320 MB (1%)

And I am sure that is MB, not GB.
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03 May 2010   #8
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

OK, so that's not it. Run WinDirStat on C and post the top left quadrant with all the numbers (no need to post the colored quadrants). That will give us an idea on what's on your C.
And yes I made a typo before. It should read 300MB - not GB.
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03 May 2010   #9

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

Here you go:

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03 May 2010   #10
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

This is not exactly what I had expected. Before you say OK in WinDirStat, highlight C. Then you should get something like this.

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