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Windows 7 - 32 bit vs 64 bit Comparison |
07-05-2010
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#41 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 |
You should mention (as a "Pro") better security for a 64-bit OS.
Reasons? A 32-bit virus cannot infect 64-bit system files or 64-bit processes. It doesn't make you completely immune from viruses/malware but it is a LOT better than 32-bit Windows in regards to security. See link below for some proof. http://www.windowsecurity.com/articl...re-Secure.html | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 3.2GHz Motherboard Asus P5Q PRO Turbo Memory 4GB DDR2-800 Graphics Card MSI Radeon HD 5850 Sound Card Creative Labs Audigy2 ZS Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 225BW PSU Corsair HX650 Case Antec Nine Hundred Hard Drives (2) 1TB Samsung F1, (2) 1.5TB Samsung F2, 1TB Samsung F2, 2TB Samsung F3 |
07-05-2010
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#42 | | |
Hmm, that article is somewhat misleading, JohM33... - There are more than 2 64bit processors. Some are: IBM's POWER architecture, SUN's Niagara architecture, DEC's Alpha, IBM's Cell (it's one little devil that's more of a "fusion" of General purpose cores accompanied by Special function cores, all 64bit), and many others...
- x86-64 extension doesn't include encryption acceleration. Encryption acceleration is independent of the ISA extension. Core i7 have AES NI encryption acceleration, it will accelerate any AES encryption that invokes proper compiler flag.
- Processes that uses WoW will run as if it's running natively, so a malware running in WoW might infect a 64 system regardless of the "bitness". Maybe it can't write to a 64 bit process's memory space, but it can still access a whole lot more of devices, say it can write it self to disk, and modify startup parameters so that it automatically ran at startup, etc...
But overall what she said is true, 64bit is safer than 32bit. Windows 64bit kernel accompanied with patch guard, etc... Accompanied by correct processor, it is safer...
zzz2496 | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built OS Windows7 Ultimate 64bit CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Motherboard Abit IN9-32X-MMAX Memory DDR2 Adata 4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTX 285 1024 and Nvidia GeForce 8800GT 512 Sound Card Asus Xonar HDAV 1.3 Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2407WFP and BenQ 2400v and Philips 150v3 Screen Resolution 3840x1200 and 1024x768 Keyboard MicrosoftNaturalKeyboard 4000/Apple Alu keyboard/Dinovo mini Mouse Logitech G5/MarbleMouseTrackball/PerformanceMX/SpacePilotPRO PSU Corsair TX 850W Case Cooler Master HAF932 Cooling Arctic Cooling Freezer Extreme and plenty of fans... Hard Drives 2 WDC 1TB
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07-05-2010
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#43 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by zzz2496 Processes that uses WoW will run as if it's running natively, so a malware running in WoW might infect a 64 system regardless of the "bitness". Maybe it can't write to a 64 bit process's memory space, but it can still access a whole lot more of devices, say it can write it self to disk, and modify startup parameters so that it automatically ran at startup, etc... I didn't say that it couldn't infect a 64-bit OS or even more so if you are running 32-bit applications (such as MS Office, a web browser, etc) which in fact are vulnerable. But a 32-bit virus/malware cannot infect 64-bit processes nor system files.
It is improved security, not complete. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 3.2GHz Motherboard Asus P5Q PRO Turbo Memory 4GB DDR2-800 Graphics Card MSI Radeon HD 5850 Sound Card Creative Labs Audigy2 ZS Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 225BW PSU Corsair HX650 Case Antec Nine Hundred Hard Drives (2) 1TB Samsung F1, (2) 1.5TB Samsung F2, 1TB Samsung F2, 2TB Samsung F3 |
07-06-2010
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#44 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 |
Great article Lordbob75!
I have been using Windows Vista 32 bit & 64 bit and Windows 7 64 bit, I have never had any kind of problems using 64 bit system, except once and that was my own fault  | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Acer M3201 OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU AMD Athlon II 240 Memory 6GB Graphics Card Ati Radeon HD 4650 Sound Card Realtek Audio HD Monitor(s) Displays HP w1907v Screen Resolution 1400x900 Keyboard Acer SK-9625 Mouse Microsoft Habu Gaming Mouse Hard Drives Buffalo External USB 1000GB
Seagate SATA 1000 GB Internet Speed 100/5 Mbit/s |
07-06-2010
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#45 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Topi Great article Lordbob75!
I have been using Windows Vista 32 bit & 64 bit and Windows 7 64 bit, I have never had any kind of problems using 64 bit system, except once and that was my own fault  Thanks!
~Lordbob | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Hera OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9 CPU Intel i5-2500k Motherboard ASUS P8P67 Pro Memory 2x 4Gb Corsair VENGEANCE DDR3-1600 Graphics Card NVidia GeForce N260GTX Twin Frozr Sound Card Realtek HD OnBoard Audio Monitor(s) Displays ASUS 24" Monitor Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Razer Tarantula Mouse Razer Lachesis PSU Cooler Master Real Power Pro 750W Case Cooler Master Haf 932 Cooling Fans Hard Drives G.SKILL Phoenix Series 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3R 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA II Internet Speed not fast enough |
07-07-2010
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#46 | | |
Thanks for all that info
Can I ask for some clarification please?
On my 64bit system, several programs installed themselves into a folder called Program Files (x86). Is it safe to assume that those are 32bit programs? I guess that 64bit software would get installed into the main location.
Now, according to all those explanations, those 32bit programs shouldn't be any faster because they are still 32bit and can only use 2GB RAM, even if I have 6GB in my PC - is that correct?
But some of these programs are definitely faster, especially when handling large amounts of data (which I think is due to the additional RAM). As you said, I shouldn't notice much difference, but I do! Why can that be?
(Mind you, I'm not complaining. I'm glad that they are faster now  ) | My System Specs | | OS Win 7 Professional 64bit CPU Intel Core2 Quad Q9550 @ 2.83GHz Memory 6 GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT Monitor(s) Displays 1 CRT, 1 TFT Hard Drives 4 Hard disks |
07-07-2010
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#47 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9 |

Quote: Originally Posted by esha Thanks for all that info
Can I ask for some clarification please?
On my 64bit system, several programs installed themselves into a folder called Program Files (x86). Is it safe to assume that those are 32bit programs? I guess that 64bit software would get installed into the main location. No problem.
Yes, those are x32 programs. 
Quote: Originally Posted by esha Now, according to all those explanations, those 32bit programs shouldn't be any faster because they are still 32bit and can only use 2GB RAM, even if I have 6GB in my PC - is that correct?
But some of these programs are definitely faster, especially when handling large amounts of data (which I think is due to the additional RAM). As you said, I shouldn't notice much difference, but I do! Why can that be?
(Mind you, I'm not complaining. I'm glad that they are faster now  ) I would guess this is because your system as a whole has more RAM to share out to more programs. This means that each program can have the full 2Gbs.
Hope that helps.
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SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3R 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA II Internet Speed not fast enough |
07-08-2010
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#48 | | Windows 7 x64 (RTM via MSDN) |
One thning you should mention, although not something one would see too often, is that Win x64 will not run 16-bit applications. This is not an OS issue, but a CPU issue. You can get around this by installing XP-mode (Virtual machine).
This is an issue in the enterprise, because there are 16-bit (usually VB6 or earlier) programs written by system admins to perform simple operations like log file parsing or applying settings to system registries. I have actually run into a few of these and the only way I could continue to use my x64 OS on the network was to re-write the apps.
As of Server 2008 R2, the Windows Server architecture is 64-bit only, but Server 2003 and Server 2008 were available in 32-bit.
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Last edited by PhreePhly; 07-09-2010 at 04:49 PM..
Reason: Clarify Server 64-bitness
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07-08-2010
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#49 | | Windows 7 Pro x64 -- PCLinuxOS KDE4 FullMonty 2011 |
Great read. Thanks. Cleared a cloudy point. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 Pro x64 -- PCLinuxOS KDE4 FullMonty 2011 CPU i7-875k @ Turbo - 7,6,5,5 - 3.6ghz Motherboard Asus P7P55D-E Deluxe Memory Corsair CMD8GX3M4A1600C8 8gb Graphics Card Asus EAH5850 DirectCU/2DIS/1GD5 Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster T220 - Panasonic VT30a 50" Screen Resolution 1680x1050 - Keyboard Logitech Wireless MK700 Mouse Logitech Wireless MX620 PSU Corsair HX-850 Power Supply Case Coolmaster HAF 932 Cooling Corsair H50 Hard Drives Corsair Force 3 SSD 120GB x 2 ::
WD VelociRaptor 150GB WD1500HLFS x 2 Internet Speed Good enough for now Other Info Voip. Insanely cheap phone calls. |
07-09-2010
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#50 | | |
Integrated Graphics and 4GB limit? Hello,
Thanks for the great thread! I bought my Win 7 back in November '09 -- the 32-bit version (unfortunately), since my old machine only had 1.5GB RAM in it, and couldn't go beyond 2GB. Now I am about to upgrade my HW to an AMD Phenom II x4 with 4GB RAM. I realize that I will only get just about 3GB usable, and I guess I can live with that.
My question is about the integrated graphics, which I will be using for a while (I'm not much of a gamer...), and how its "shared" memory is allocated. Lets assume I have 3GB of RAM available to Windows. If I allocate 512MB of my system RAM to the graphics, will it come from that 1GB that Windows doesn't "see" (keeping me with the same 3GB usable), or would it come from the usable system RAM, leaving me with only 2.5GB available?
I don't think I'm ready to shell out for a new OS license, so I'm trying to maximize what I've got. Thanks for your help! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built OS Windows 7 Pro x64 CPU AMD Phenom II x4 955 Black Motherboard ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 Memory 4GB G.Skill Ripjaw DDR3 1600 (2 x 2GB) Graphics Card Sapphire Radeon HD 5670 512mb GDDR5 Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays Acer P235Hbmid 23" Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 PSU OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W Hard Drives 1x WD Caviar Black 640GB SATA 3GB/s;
2x Maxtor 80GB SATA 1.5GB/s Other Info New build as of 7/15/2010 32 bit vs 64 bit Comparison problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:55 PM. |  |