32 bit vs 64 bit Comparison

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  1. Posts : 6,885
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
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       #51

    Vratar said:
    Hello,

    Thanks for the great thread! I bought my Win 7 back in November '09 -- the 32-bit version (unfortunately), since my old machine only had 1.5GB RAM in it, and couldn't go beyond 2GB. Now I am about to upgrade my HW to an AMD Phenom II x4 with 4GB RAM. I realize that I will only get just about 3GB usable, and I guess I can live with that.

    My question is about the integrated graphics, which I will be using for a while (I'm not much of a gamer...), and how its "shared" memory is allocated. Lets assume I have 3GB of RAM available to Windows. If I allocate 512MB of my system RAM to the graphics, will it come from that 1GB that Windows doesn't "see" (keeping me with the same 3GB usable), or would it come from the usable system RAM, leaving me with only 2.5GB available?

    I don't think I'm ready to shell out for a new OS license, so I'm trying to maximize what I've got. Thanks for your help!
    It will take from the system RAM, leaving you 2.5Gb.

    If you bought a win7 license, you can install x32 or x64 with the key, you just need the x64 install disk.

    ~Lordbob
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  2. Posts : 11
    Windows 7 Pro x64
       #52

    Thanks Lord Bob, that's what I was afraid of...

    But you also raise an interesting possibility -- let me see if I have this clearly. I have a license key that I bought, along with a 32-bit physical disk for installation. If I understand you correctly, I can borrow a 64-bit disk from a buddy, use my own license key for installation, and everything will work fine? Would it need to be the same "level" (ex: I have Win 7 Pro, so would the x64 also need to be the Pro version)?

    Are there any legal issues at work here? I'm not interested in "getting away" with anything... Hell, I'd be happy to give Microsoft an extra $20 for just the x64 media if my key will work with it...

    Thanks for your patience with the questions...
    Last edited by Vratar; 09 Jul 2010 at 22:46. Reason: edited for clarity
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  3. Posts : 6,885
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
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       #53

    Vratar said:
    Thanks Lord Bob, that's what I was afraid of...

    But you also raise an interesting possibility -- let me see if I have this clearly. I have a license key that I bought, along with a 32-bit physical disk for installation. If I understand you correctly, I can borrow a 64-bit disk from a buddy, use my own license key for installation, and everything will work fine? Would it need to be the same "level" (ex: I have Win 7 Pro, so would the x64 also need to be the Pro version)?

    Are there any legal issues at work here? I'm not interested in "getting away" with anything... Hell, I'd be happy to give Microsoft an extra $20 for just the x64 media if my key will work with it...

    Thanks for your patience with the questions...
    That is my understanding, yes. (I am getting confirmation).

    Also, I believe you CAN buy another install CD, but there is no reason too if you can borrow one.

    ~Lordbob
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  4. Posts : 10
    Win 7 x64 Home Premium
       #54

    Lordbob,

    ummm, not to contradict you on this, my 1st post on this forum, but I am typing this msg on a Gateway GT5040 w/1Gb RAM.... & have been functioning fairly well for a couple/few weeks... Don't worry, I'm getting another 2Gb tonite....

    Elisedai
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  5. Posts : 3,427
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       #55

    Vratar said:
    Thanks Lord Bob, that's what I was afraid of...

    But you also raise an interesting possibility -- let me see if I have this clearly. I have a license key that I bought, along with a 32-bit physical disk for installation. If I understand you correctly, I can borrow a 64-bit disk from a buddy, use my own license key for installation, and everything will work fine? Would it need to be the same "level" (ex: I have Win 7 Pro, so would the x64 also need to be the Pro version)?

    Are there any legal issues at work here? I'm not interested in "getting away" with anything... Hell, I'd be happy to give Microsoft an extra $20 for just the x64 media if my key will work with it...

    Thanks for your patience with the questions...
    LB is spot on. Your license is good for both 32 and 64 bit versions. The thing that matters is the "level" (Home Premium, Profesional, Ultimate etc.)
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  6. Posts : 6,885
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
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       #56

    elisedai said:
    Lordbob,

    ummm, not to contradict you on this, my 1st post on this forum, but I am typing this msg on a Gateway GT5040 w/1Gb RAM.... & have been functioning fairly well for a couple/few weeks... Don't worry, I'm getting another 2Gb tonite....

    Elisedai
    I simply listed the requirements from the Windows site. I KNOW it is possible to run on less.

    ~Lordbob
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  7. Posts : 11
    Windows 7 Pro x64
       #57

    severedsolo said:
    LB is spot on. Your license is good for both 32 and 64 bit versions. The thing that matters is the "level" (Home Premium, Profesional, Ultimate etc.)
    Thanks for the confirmation severedsolo! I'm going to try to get my hands on an x64 Win 7 Pro disk today!
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  8. Posts : 11
    Windows 7 Pro x64
       #58

    Progress...


    Just wanted to follow up with my progress in getting a copy of the x64 media. This is actually information you can find elsewhere on this site, but I thought it would be helpful in this thread as well.

    Remember at the Win 7 launch, when MS (through Digital River) had a student promotion where currently-enrolled students could get a Win 7 upgrade for $30US? Do you also remember that it turned into a disaster, because the update files they sold were corrupt? Well, the way they fixed it was to just post .ISO files of the full DVDs, so people could download the media, burn a DVD, and install that way. Those .ISO files are still there. Follow this link for a story and links to the files:

    Microsoft responds to Windows 7 student upgrade SNAFU with direct ISO download

    Caveat: I have a license from that promotion, so I should have no problem using this media. But, I have no way of knowing if the media will work only with the student promotion license.

    I expect to be building my new machine in the next few days. I'll post back and let you know how it went.
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  9. Posts : 1,252
    Windows 8 Professional 64-bit
       #59

    Hmm, there are many programs that are incompatible with 64-bit, at least for now. I would prefer 64-bit but the compatibility with other programs that require 32-bit would get in my way.
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  10. Posts : 6,885
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
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       #60

    Skulblaka said:
    Hmm, there are many programs that are incompatible with 64-bit, at least for now. I would prefer 64-bit but the compatibility with other programs that require 32-bit would get in my way.
    Well, a lot of us here have been using x64 OSes since Vista, and most of us have very little problems.

    Worst case is you try it and cant use a few programs.

    ~Lordbob
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