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Windows 7: using ssd for windows and hard drive for everything else

08 Jun 2010   #1

windows 7 pro
 
 
using ssd for windows and hard drive for everything else

just tring to add a ssd for windows and other drive for storage. can anybody tell me how to delete windows off old hard drive and set up to run this way ?

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09 Jun 2010   #2

win7 ultimate 32bit
 
 

don't delete it--just remove the drive--reset your BIOS to boot from the SSD--install the SSD--install your OS on the SSD-- then reconnect the previous drive and move what ever data you wish to keep--possibly even configuration settings, custom themes, etc.--then reformat the original drive--reinstall your programs and direct them to your (probably D: drive )
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09 Jun 2010   #3

windows 7 pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by tman69 View Post
don't delete it--just remove the drive--reset your BIOS to boot from the SSD--install the SSD--install your OS on the SSD-- then reconnect the previous drive and move what ever data you wish to keep--possibly even configuration settings, custom themes, etc.--then reformat the original drive--reinstall your programs and direct them to your (probably D: drive )
I dont want to put anything but programs on ssd i guessing that your saying to save stuff old hd stuff to cd or dvd .
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10 Jun 2010   #4

win7 ultimate 32bit
 
 

sorry-I misunderstood--some people use an SSD just for the OS and install programs on another--so--to accomplish what you want to so---remove your original drive--reset your BIOS to boot from the SSD--install the SSD--install your OS on the SSD--REINSTALL your programs on the SSD drive-- then reconnect the previous drive-to completely remove the windows OS from the previous drive you will need to reformat it--this assumes that you already have backed up any data that you will want to put back on it the 'storage' drive.
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10 Jun 2010   #5

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimkid View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by tman69 View Post
don't delete it--just remove the drive--reset your BIOS to boot from the SSD--install the SSD--install your OS on the SSD-- then reconnect the previous drive and move what ever data you wish to keep--possibly even configuration settings, custom themes, etc.--then reformat the original drive--reinstall your programs and direct them to your (probably D: drive )
I dont want to put anything but programs on ssd i guessing that your saying to save stuff old hd stuff to cd or dvd .
Oops. You'll get more performance using the SSD as a boot and system drive.

You'll only get optimum performance from a clean install. I know it sounds terrible but there are really good reasons for it that I'd be happy to elucidate if you want.
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10 Jun 2010   #6

windows 7 pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by baarod View Post
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by tman69 View Post
don't delete it--just remove the drive--reset your BIOS to boot from the SSD--install the SSD--install your OS on the SSD-- then reconnect the previous drive and move what ever data you wish to keep--possibly even configuration settings, custom themes, etc.--then reformat the original drive--reinstall your programs and direct them to your (probably D: drive )
I dont want to put anything but programs on ssd i guessing that your saying to save stuff old hd stuff to cd or dvd .
Oops. You'll get more performance using the SSD as a boot and system drive.

You'll only get optimum performance from a clean install. I know it sounds terrible but there are really good reasons for it that I'd be happy to elucidate if you want.
that is just what i want to do if you can help me to set up the ssd and tell me what to do with the hd that would be great
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10 Jun 2010   #7

windows 7 pro
 
 

thanks for the help
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11 Jun 2010   #8

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimkid View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by baarod View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimkid View Post

I dont want to put anything but programs on ssd i guessing that your saying to save stuff old hd stuff to cd or dvd .
Oops. You'll get more performance using the SSD as a boot and system drive.

You'll only get optimum performance from a clean install. I know it sounds terrible but there are really good reasons for it that I'd be happy to elucidate if you want.
that is just what i want to do if you can help me to set up the ssd and tell me what to do with the hd that would be great
Sorry for the slow response. Since you weren't suffering from a crippling problem I put your request in my queue.

Here's the scoop:

1) You've already got all your files and settings on the spinner (slang now for a mechanical hard drive) so no need to backup as long as you've already done a recent one on the spinner
2) Windows 7 is the only Windows to date with support for the ATAPI TRIM command that boosts SSD performance. It's installer is also SSD aware. Downside is that the OS does not dynamically adapt to being moved to a SSD from a spinner so a clean install is needed -- bad news
3) Good news -- install to an Intel, Indilinx or SandForce SSD can complete faster than you've ever imagined. What SSD did you buy? It might be a great opportunity before installing 7 to upgrade the BIOS for best performance. Also upgrading your motherboard BIOS is a good idea now too! You'll need to set your BIOS to boot from the SSD and maybe set it to SATA ACHI mode in your BIOS if supported by BIOS and SSD.
4) Once all that's done just do a plain old "boot from DVD" install of Windows 7. When prompted for the install partition make sure it's showing partitions from the SSD and NOT THE SPINNER. If it is STOP and write back. Something is wrong you need to fix.
5) If there are partitions on the SSD showing up you need to click advanced and delete them all. You want to install 7 on FREE SPACE not a partition. That will allow 7 to create it's partitions correctly with the CRUCIAL advantage of creating it's partitions aligned on the SSDs virtualized geometry boundaries. If this is not done, your performance can suffer as much as 80% -- i.e. your SSD could end up almost as slow as a spinner at some things.
6) Install 7. Should be quick. By quick I mean the fastest install of 7 you've ever seen.
7) Once it's installed turn off the page file on the SSD. It will wear it out. If you don't know how I'll show you.
8) Create a user folder for yourself on the SSD. I put mine at the root like d:\mike.
9) Open c:\users\mike and MOVE all the non-hidden folders to the folder your created on the SSD. Use Explorer not command prompt for this. It automatically sets up all the special folders and libraries automatically that way.
10) There are a whole bunch of tweak some folks use over and above that. They've never made any difference to me in my tests with my Vertex 30GB firmware 1.5 but I want you to research those and decide. Ask folks here about them as there are lots of varied opinions -- that's what make this place the best Windows help on the entire 'net.
11) Install "normal" programs -- those with smallish disk footprints to the SSD. This will improve their performance too.
12) Install games to the SSD. I use mostly Steam games so I install Steam to d:\steam. All Steam games go to the spinner since it's hard to move them later without a re-download.

Hope this helps!
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16 Jun 2010   #9

windows 7 pro
 
 

OK i have the computer running now I am using a ocz agility 60 gb as my hard drive I have the spinner installed need to know what setting to use and where to find them.
comp info intell Q6600 gigabyte ep43 ud3l mb gigabyte 4670 video card corsair DDr 2 800 mhz memory windows 7 pro spinner is WDcav se 500
thanks for your help
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16 Jun 2010   #10

windows 7 pro
 
 

Oh yea I am moving some parts from old comp (spinner memory and prosesser)
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