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Windows 7 - HDTV questions. Buying a TV with a media center PC in mind |
01-24-2011
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HDTV questions. Buying a TV with a media center PC in mind I'm shopping for a HDTV. My local Fred Meyer's has a Samsung 42" Plasma 720p HDTV for $399.99 right now. This is very much in my price range.
Eventually I'd like to build up a media center PC around a Radeon HD 4870 (only because it's what I've got in my current build and I don't play PC games anymore so no need for a gaming vid card).
So my question is, will I notice a huge difference with a 720p television as a PC monitor?
I could drop down to 40" and get into 1080p for a little more than that sale price of 399 but if the viewable differences are not significant I'd rather not spend the extra money.
I don't have BluRay and I don't have cable TV. I play Xbox360 and stream Netflix and that's about it.
From what I understand 1080p really only makes a difference with bluray since most TV (including HD) is broadcast in 720, and most games are still 720.
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core2 Duo E8400 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3L Memory 4GB OCZ Fatal1ty Ed. PC6400 Graphics Card Sapphire Radeon HD4870 Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays Acer P221W PSU PC Power & Cooling Silencer PPCs500w Case Antec 300 Cooling Yes Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 500gb |
01-24-2011
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If you had the money, go for 1080p but to be honest you may not notice so much of a difference. I've got a 43" 720p Plasma and the image quality is spectacular compared to anything else i've watched (Scart/Monitor).
You're correct in your understanding of TV resolution output, Sky TV only output @ 720p and most games are 720p so if you don't have a Blu-Ray player (Standalone/PS3) then stick with the bigger 720p.
Hope thie helps
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01-24-2011
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1080 is the way to go in my opinion. 1080 gets you a desktop area of 1920x1080.
More vertical display area makes webpages and other documents easier to view.
I understand the limited difference in video viewing enjoyment, but I spend more time on my media PC doing things other than viewing videos.
42 inch LCD displays for < $500 are not hard to find. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU P4 3.2 Motherboard Intel 815GM Memory DDR 400 Graphics Card ATI HD3850 Sound Card C-Media 7.1 Monitor(s) Displays SyncMaster 244T Screen Resolution 1920*1200 PSU 500 Case PowerSpec $24 Cooling ThermalTake copper Hard Drives Several Internet Speed Blazing |
01-24-2011
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If you don't play games anymore just buy a motherboard with onboard graphics.
I built a machine recently with an AMD 785G chipset, works great, plays Blurays and 720P rips that I have on my main machine. Newegg.com - ASUS M4A785-M AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
My personal HTPC/Media Center has an Nvidia 9300 chipset and does great with all the media I throw at it.
I have this older board, Newegg.com - ASUS P5N7A-VM LGA 775 NVIDIA GeForce 9300/nForce 730i HDMI Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
I have my HTPC hooked up to a 42" 1080P Panny Plasma.
here is an older shot of my HTPC before I bought a Bluray drive for it, was just using an Xbox 360 HD-DVD drive for it since HD-DVD's were really cheap at the time. Case is a Silverstone SUGO SG02B | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HAL-9000 OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit CPU Intel i7 2600K @ 4.44Ghz Motherboard Asus P8P67 Pro Rev 3.1 Memory 16GB DDR3 1333 Corsair XMS3 Graphics Card XFX HD5850 1GB EyeFinity Sound Card Logitech G35 & Sennheiser PC135 & VIA HD Monitor(s) Displays 23" HP 2310e, 23" Samsung B2230, 21.5" Viewsonic Screen Resolution 5760x1080 Keyboard Logitech G15 and G13 Mouse Logitech G700 Gaming Mouse PSU Antec True Power New 650watt Case Cooler Master HAF-932 Cooling Corsair H60 Hydro Cooler, 3x 230mm Fans, 2x120mm Fan Hard Drives 16TB of Storage
128GB & 256GB Crucial M4 SSD's, 2X 1TB WD Black, 3x 2TB WD, 3x 2TB Samsung F4, 1.5TB Seagate, WD 500GB, Internet Speed 50/10 Mbit Other Info Speakers : Alesis M1 Active Mk2 Studio Monitors , APC RS 1200 UPS, HP 4500DN Color Laser, HP P1006 mono Laser, Kodak 8500 Dye-Sub, Epson 1280 inkjet, Epson Worforce 610 MFC |
01-24-2011
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Quote: Originally Posted by DeVandal 1080 is the way to go in my opinion. 1080 gets you a desktop area of 1920x1080.
More vertical display area makes webpages and other documents easier to view.
I understand the limited difference in video viewing enjoyment, but I spend more time on my media PC doing things other than viewing videos. I don't plan on surfing much web or viewing documents on my TV. Strictly Media Center so besides whatever media browser I'd use it would be movies only. 
Quote: Originally Posted by DeVandal 42 inch LCD displays for < $500 are not hard to find. in a 120Hz model they can be.
I play a lot of online shooters (Black Ops) so I'd like to eliminate any potential motion blur. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core2 Duo E8400 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3L Memory 4GB OCZ Fatal1ty Ed. PC6400 Graphics Card Sapphire Radeon HD4870 Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays Acer P221W PSU PC Power & Cooling Silencer PPCs500w Case Antec 300 Cooling Yes Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 500gb |
01-24-2011
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Quote: Originally Posted by 211 
Quote: Originally Posted by DeVandal 1080 is the way to go in my opinion. 1080 gets you a desktop area of 1920x1080.
More vertical display area makes webpages and other documents easier to view.
I understand the limited difference in video viewing enjoyment, but I spend more time on my media PC doing things other than viewing videos. I don't plan on surfing much web or viewing documents on my TV. Strictly Media Center so besides whatever media browser I'd use it would be movies only. 
Quote: Originally Posted by DeVandal 42 inch LCD displays for < $500 are not hard to find. in a 120Hz model they can be.
I play a lot of online shooters (Black Ops) so I'd like to eliminate any potential motion blur. using the 120hz feature of the HDTV can add lag to the game.
120hz computer monitor is not the same as 120/240Hz on an HDTV, 120Hz computer monitor can accept a 120Hz signal and the HDTV does internal processing to create 120Hz/240Hz. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HAL-9000 OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit CPU Intel i7 2600K @ 4.44Ghz Motherboard Asus P8P67 Pro Rev 3.1 Memory 16GB DDR3 1333 Corsair XMS3 Graphics Card XFX HD5850 1GB EyeFinity Sound Card Logitech G35 & Sennheiser PC135 & VIA HD Monitor(s) Displays 23" HP 2310e, 23" Samsung B2230, 21.5" Viewsonic Screen Resolution 5760x1080 Keyboard Logitech G15 and G13 Mouse Logitech G700 Gaming Mouse PSU Antec True Power New 650watt Case Cooler Master HAF-932 Cooling Corsair H60 Hydro Cooler, 3x 230mm Fans, 2x120mm Fan Hard Drives 16TB of Storage
128GB & 256GB Crucial M4 SSD's, 2X 1TB WD Black, 3x 2TB WD, 3x 2TB Samsung F4, 1.5TB Seagate, WD 500GB, Internet Speed 50/10 Mbit Other Info Speakers : Alesis M1 Active Mk2 Studio Monitors , APC RS 1200 UPS, HP 4500DN Color Laser, HP P1006 mono Laser, Kodak 8500 Dye-Sub, Epson 1280 inkjet, Epson Worforce 610 MFC |
01-25-2011
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IMO, an LCD TV is more appropriate for mating with an HTPC. Consider one with the least response time and good viewing angle. About a year back I went in for a 42" LG LCD TV after a lot of deliberations. IMO, LG LCD panels are better than Samsung.
Here is a picture of how a webpage looks like on my LG 42LH60YR Jazz Theater(may be an India-specific version).
More of my rantings and pictures here , here and here . (may not be in chronological order)
Again, give allowance to technological changes/advances that have taken place since then such as LED backlighting, 3D etc.,
For HTPC, if you are not considering one to build, look into the Zotac website. They have mini-PCs with DVD and blu-ray drives. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number self-assembled OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit CPU AMD Phenom II X3 720 Processor Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H Revision 1.0 Memory Transcend DDR2 (PC2 6400) 4 X 1GB Graphics Card Integrated + ATI Radeon 4550 Sound Card Integrated Realtek ALC 889A Monitor(s) Displays DELL 1704 FPT Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 Keyboard Microsoft - wired Mouse Microsoft - wired PSU Coolermaster 400 W Case Zebronics Cube Cooling stock Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar SE16 250 GB x2 in RAID 0 Internet Speed ADSL 256-512Kbps |
01-25-2011
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Here's a link to the TV I'm looking at.
It boasts .001 ms response time at 600hz. Not sure how that will affect gaming or make a difference in a HTPC setup...
I'd be willing to go down in size to 40" and 1080 but to stay in my pricerange I'm looking at 60hz.
Maybe someone can comment more about the refresh rate and how I'd benefit from it? I read enough about the differences but as far as real-world applications I cant compare. Most reviews I've read simply state, "if you have the option to go 120 or greater, you should". | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core2 Duo E8400 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3L Memory 4GB OCZ Fatal1ty Ed. PC6400 Graphics Card Sapphire Radeon HD4870 Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays Acer P221W PSU PC Power & Cooling Silencer PPCs500w Case Antec 300 Cooling Yes Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 500gb |
01-25-2011
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Quote: Originally Posted by 211
I don't have BluRay and I don't have cable TV. I play Xbox360 and stream Netflix and that's about it.
From what I understand 1080p really only makes a difference with bluray since most TV (including HD) is broadcast in 720, and most games are still 720. Honestly, for your usage needs - a 720p panel would suffice. 
Quote: Originally Posted by 211 Maybe someone can comment more about the refresh rate and how I'd benefit from it? I read enough about the differences but as far as real-world applications I cant compare. Most reviews I've read simply state, "if you have the option to go 120 or greater, you should". Keep in mind that when connecting to a PC, you are still essentially limited to typical monitor refresh rates.
ie I have a 58" Samsung Plasma connected via DVI>HDMI and my max reported refresh rate is still only 1920x1080 @ 75hz. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Me OS 7 Ultimate x64 CPU i5 2500K 4.7 Ghz Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Gen 3 Memory 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X 2133mhz Graphics Card Asus GTX 580 DirectCU II Sound Card X-FI Forte 7.1 + ATH-AD900 Headphones Monitor(s) Displays x2 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony Screen Resolution 1920*1200 / 1920*1080 Keyboard Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine MX Black // Filco Ninja TKL Mouse Razer Imperator + Razer Lachesis PSU Corsair AX1200W Case Lian Li PC-V1020A Cooling Noctua NH-D14: 3x140mm Gelid Wing 14 : Noctua NF-P12 120mm Hard Drives 2x Intel 520 240GB * Crucial M4 128GB * 2x Samsung F3 1TB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0) Other Info Laptop Specs:
Clevo Sager P170HM //
17.3 Matte 1920x1200 //
i7 2720QM // 8GB 1333mhz //
Dedicated GTX 485M //
240GB Intel 520 + 750GB + Blu-Ray //
Samsung Story 2TB USB 3.0 |
01-25-2011
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While increasing the refresh rate to 120Hz and 240 Hz in case of LCD TVs is justified as a means to combat motion blur, Plasma TVs which already have a good response time do not need this enhancement. So do not waste your money on 120Hz or 240Hz Plasma TV. (Whether adequate for your needs or not, I still consider Plasma TVs as a dying breed.)
You may google on this topic (120/240Hz refresh rate) to find lots of writing on it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number self-assembled OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit CPU AMD Phenom II X3 720 Processor Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H Revision 1.0 Memory Transcend DDR2 (PC2 6400) 4 X 1GB Graphics Card Integrated + ATI Radeon 4550 Sound Card Integrated Realtek ALC 889A Monitor(s) Displays DELL 1704 FPT Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 Keyboard Microsoft - wired Mouse Microsoft - wired PSU Coolermaster 400 W Case Zebronics Cube Cooling stock Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar SE16 250 GB x2 in RAID 0 Internet Speed ADSL 256-512Kbps HDTV questions. Buying a TV with a media center PC in mind problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:06 PM. |  |