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Windows 7: Best format for streaming my OWNED dvd's to other devices in home.

16 Oct 2011   #11
jonny4

Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
 
 

I wasn't expecting it to look better or the same but I wasn't expecting them to look this bad, lol.


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16 Oct 2011   #12
jonny4

Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Wishmaster View Post
If you want a rip to look as close to the original as possible:

I would use x264 and encode with a mod 16 resize.
USe either a CQ 1 pass of 16.5-17 or a 2 pass bit rate of 1500-2000.
For Audio, to help save space AC3 ProLogic2 @ 224 or 5.1 at 384 or 448.

Nero AAC is also a good choice.
192 for Stero or 320 for 5.1 usually works out well.

As mentioned, to keep quality the file sizes are going to be much larger.
Also, you can try other things to keep file sizes down, while maintaining quality.

1. Convert to 23.976 FPS
2. Use higher quality settings in x264. For example, SubPixel Refinement LVl 9 or 10.

The result will look very good, yest still be considerablt smaller than the original.
But you are still looking at around 1500MB for a 1hr30min length rip.

This is why I suggested getting a bigger HD for storage.
You need to either shoot for saving space, at the cost of quality.
Or much better looking rips at the cost space.

You cant really have it both ways.

But as mentioned, XVID or DIVX may be a better choice for you. Just need to try them and see.


@Zepher
Ive actually ripped BluRay to DVD resolutions like this and it usually does come out looking better than the original DVD version.

I think the reason is that the source you are working with is much higher quality (1080P)
So when you compress that down to DVD resolution, its still looks very good. Theres so much data there that can be thrown away and compressed at high quality.
When the source is DVD resolution to start with (even the same film) theres much less info you can by throwing away.
At least, thats how it seems to me.
I don't think the software versions I am running have all of these options. What do you use?
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16 Oct 2011   #13
jonny4

Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Wishmaster View Post
I would use x264 and encode with a mod 16 resize.
USe either a CQ 1 pass of 16.5-17 or a 2 pass bit rate of 1500-2000.
For Audio, to help save space AC3 ProLogic2 @ 224 or 5.1 at 384 or 448.

Nero AAC is also a good choice.
192 for Stero or 320 for 5.1 usually works out well.

As mentioned, to keep quality the file sizes are going to be much larger.
Also, you can try other things to keep file sizes down, while maintaining quality.

1. Convert to 23.976 FPS
2. Use higher quality settings in x264. For example, SubPixel Refinement LVl 9 or 10.
dvdfab has a lot of these options but i can't see anything about mod 16 resize anywhere nor anything about "subpixel refinement".
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16 Oct 2011   #14
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

These are settings in the x264 encoder itself.
There are different x264 encoders.

Handbrake is by far the most popular, and probably one of the easiest to use.
I personally like meGUI, but it has a much larger learning curve than others.

A mod 16 resize may not be mentioned, but most encoders attempt to do this by default.

For example: Lets say we have a Widescreen DVD.
Its resolution will 720x480 anamorphic, which simply means it has a flag tell the decoder to stretch the image into 16:9 when its played back.

The Mod 16 resolution would be 720x400.
This is also a few less bits to endcode than the original res.

If you do not mind file size, (and remember higher resolutions require higher bit rates) one thing I do with Widescreen DVD is resize to 768x432.

Technically, its not upsizing though. That resolution has just as many pixels (actually a bit less) than the original 720x480.
The difference is 768x432 is converted to a true 16:9 (1.778 aspect ratio). But will also take nearly the same bit rate as the native resolution to encode.




Lots of people really like DVD FAB. Perhaps just try upping the quality settings?
Or, give Handbrake a shot.

The Subpixel Refinement affects movement prediction and other changes.
By default, I believe x264 uses a lvl 7.
The higher you go, the slower encodes will be, but also, the more accurate they will be. (Bit rate will play a large role here as well)



But, everyone has different expectations. Its just something you need to play around with a bit and find what suits your tastes.

Try some 2 pass 1500 or so bit rate encodes.
The try some quality based 1 pass encodes. 1 pass are faster, but impossible to tell what the final file size will.

Also as jumanji suggested previously, Xvid or DivX may give results you prefer more.
You really have a ton of options to choose from. Its really going to be a bit of trial and error find something you are not only comfortable with, but satisfying results as well.
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25 Oct 2011   #15
jonny4

Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
 
 

I fixed this problem, thx.
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