HD movie playback mainly avi files is choppy in WMC

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Ive searched this forum in and out and couldn't find the exact problem im having.

i have movies that are primarily in .avi format and they play fine in VLC Media Player with a steady frame rate of 24fps (fraps) In WMP and Media Center, however, the playback is choppy and the frame rate will jump everywhere between 55 and 60fps (my refresh rate is 60).

I have had every codec pack installed (at separate times) and that doesnt change anything. without a codec pack they still play fine in VLC. Media center and WMP will play them fine only needing the AC3 Filter installed w/ no additional codecs.

All these videos played fine in WMP and Media Center in XP (previous version of windows i had) so its not the hardware thats an issue..i think.

Im running Win7 Pro 64bit

HARDWARE:
Asus M2N-E
GTX285
750GB Seagate
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6GB ocz fatality ram
 

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Ive searched this forum in and out and couldn't find the exact problem im having.

i have movies that are primarily in .avi format and they play fine in VLC Media Player with a steady frame rate of 24fps (fraps) In WMP and Media Center, however, the playback is choppy and the frame rate will jump everywhere between 55 and 60fps (my refresh rate is 60).

I have had every codec pack installed (at separate times) and that doesnt change anything. without a codec pack they still play fine in VLC. Media center and WMP will play them fine only needing the AC3 Filter installed w/ no additional codecs.

All these videos played fine in WMP and Media Center in XP (previous version of windows i had) so its not the hardware thats an issue..i think.

Im running Win7 Pro 64bit

HARDWARE:
Asus M2N-E
GTX285
750GB Seagate
Creative X-Fi 7.1
6GB ocz fatality ram


Was this install an upgrade or clean install?
 

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it was a clean install with the oem system builders disk
 

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ASUS ENGTX285 (GTX 285)
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Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi
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ASUS 1080p 24" HDMI
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Logitech Multimedia Keyboard
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Logitech Laser Mouse
Install Shak007 codec releases. both 32bit and 64bit.

Suggested changes from default . . .
Open the 32bit settings app
Help TAB, choose to associate filetypes to WMP
H264 TAB, choose the Divx codec


settings Just for you, in the x64 settings app (for Media Center)
go to the SWAP TAB, choose to disable the Microsoft Video codec, and the DMO codecs.
If you would prefer FFDshow to handle MP3 audio (alot of AVI's use this) make that selection also

If you want the same behavior from 32bit players, make the above changes in the 32bit app too.
 
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Install Shak007 codec releases. both 32bit and 64bit.

Suggested changes from default . . .
Open the 32bit settings app
Help TAB, choose to associate filetypes to WMP
H264 TAB, choose the Divx codec


settings Just for you, in the x64 settings app (for Media Center)
go to the SWAP TAB, choose to disable the Microsoft Video codec, and the DMO codecs.
If you would prefer FFDshow to handle MP3 audio (alot of AVI's use this) make that selection also

that fixed it! BUT i noticed how when i disable the msoft decoder it breaks live tv...? is there a way to disable it without breaking live tv?
 

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Windows 7 Pro x64
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AMD Athlon X2 6000+ 3.1 GHz Dual Core
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ASUS M2N-E nForce 570
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8GB OCZ Fatal1ty DDR2 800Mhz
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ASUS ENGTX285 (GTX 285)
Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi
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ASUS 1080p 24" HDMI
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1920x1080
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WD 750GB (XP Pro 32bit)
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that fixed it! BUT i noticed how when i disable the msoft decoder it breaks live tv...? is there a way to disable it without breaking live tv?

you may not need to disable it. I was just covering all the possibilities.
If it turns out that you do need it disabled re-enabling it is only 1 click away.
 
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that fixed it! BUT i noticed how when i disable the msoft decoder it breaks live tv...? is there a way to disable it without breaking live tv?

you may not need to disable it. I was just covering all the possibilities.
If it turns out that you do need it disabled re-enabling it is only 1 click away.

well i tried it both ways, with them disabled and without. when they are disabled avi files run fine and it icons for the codecs show up in the taskbar but tv doesnt work. with it disabled it will run fine for about an hour but then the icons go away and its like the microsoft codecs kick back in and override the shark007 package. is there a way i can keep the msoft codecs enabled but keep the other ones from "dying out" in an hour into the video..?
 

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ASUS ENGTX285 (GTX 285)
Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi
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ASUS 1080p 24" HDMI
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1920x1080
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WD 750GB (XP Pro 32bit)
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AC Arctic Freezer, 3 120mm fans
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Logitech Multimedia Keyboard
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Logitech Laser Mouse
that fixed it! BUT i noticed how when i disable the msoft decoder it breaks live tv...? is there a way to disable it without breaking live tv?

you may not need to disable it. I was just covering all the possibilities.
If it turns out that you do need it disabled re-enabling it is only 1 click away.

well i tried it both ways, with them disabled and without. when they are disabled avi files run fine and it icons for the codecs show up in the taskbar but tv doesnt work. with it disabled it will run fine for about an hour but then the icons go away and its like the microsoft codecs kick back in and override the shark007 package. is there a way i can keep the msoft codecs enabled but keep the other ones from "dying out" in an hour into the video..?

Have you tried Media Player Classic - Home Cinema? Choose either the x86 or x64 version.
 

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you may not need to disable it. I was just covering all the possibilities.
If it turns out that you do need it disabled re-enabling it is only 1 click away.

well i tried it both ways, with them disabled and without. when they are disabled avi files run fine and it icons for the codecs show up in the taskbar but tv doesnt work. with it disabled it will run fine for about an hour but then the icons go away and its like the microsoft codecs kick back in and override the shark007 package. is there a way i can keep the msoft codecs enabled but keep the other ones from "dying out" in an hour into the video..?

Have you tried Media Player Classic - Home Cinema? Choose either the x86 or x64 version.

yes ive tried home cinema and vlc player. both work perfect (even before the shark007 codecs) but i use this on a tv with a remote etc so i want to get it running smooth in WMC.
 

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ASUS M2N-E nForce 570
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8GB OCZ Fatal1ty DDR2 800Mhz
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ASUS ENGTX285 (GTX 285)
Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi
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ASUS 1080p 24" HDMI
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1920x1080
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WD 750GB (XP Pro 32bit)
Samsung 750GB (Win7 Pro 64bit)
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OCZ 700W
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Ultra X-Blaster Black ATX Mid-Tower
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AC Arctic Freezer, 3 120mm fans
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Logitech Multimedia Keyboard
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Logitech Laser Mouse
Is your CPU overclocked? If it is underclock it back to stock. Then, I'd download 2 diagnostics - a hard drive one such as Seagate Seatools and run a quick 5min check, then Memtest 86. Run that for a pass. If the diagnostics pass and the cpu is stock we'll see what's next. Also, try the guide in my sig and update your chipset and other drivers including firmware for your burner and monitor.
 

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Is your CPU overclocked? If it is underclock it back to stock. Then, I'd download 2 diagnostics - a hard drive one such as Seagate Seatools and run a quick 5min check, then Memtest 86. Run that for a pass. If the diagnostics pass and the cpu is stock we'll see what's next. Also, try the guide in my sig and update your chipset and other drivers including firmware for your burner and monitor.

no i did have it overclocked 20% in winxp but everything is stock now including the gpu. i have the latest firmware for my dvd burner and monitor. only driver issue i had was network and that was fixed by using ones from msoft not the nvidia ones. ill run memtest.

EDIT: would you recommend using older drivers for the gtx285? im using 191.07 but there are about 6 or 8 previous ones. could that be the issue?
 

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8GB OCZ Fatal1ty DDR2 800Mhz
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ASUS ENGTX285 (GTX 285)
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Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi
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Logitech Multimedia Keyboard
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Logitech Laser Mouse
Is your CPU overclocked? If it is underclock it back to stock. Then, I'd download 2 diagnostics - a hard drive one such as Seagate Seatools and run a quick 5min check, then Memtest 86. Run that for a pass. If the diagnostics pass and the cpu is stock we'll see what's next. Also, try the guide in my sig and update your chipset and other drivers including firmware for your burner and monitor.

no i did have it overclocked 20% in winxp but everything is stock now including the gpu. i have the latest firmware for my dvd burner and monitor. only driver issue i had was network and that was fixed by using ones from msoft not the nvidia ones. ill run memtest.

EDIT: would you recommend using older drivers for the gtx285? im using 191.07 but there are about 6 or 8 previous ones. could that be the issue?

Use driver sweeper and use the second oldest drivers - details in the driver guide in my sig.
 

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Sony Vaio Z46GDU
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9300M GS 256MB Dedicated (Speed) + Intel4500MHD (Stamina)
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Realtek HD Audio
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13.1' WXGA
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1600x900
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320GB 7200RPM w/ 16MB cache
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OEM System builder versions often do not contain all the files found on the retail versions. The assumption is you (as a system builder) know exactly what you want to setup on the PC and will install any additional files required having licensed them from the source.

Microsoft OEM Partner Center
 
OEM System builder versions often do not contain all the files found on the retail versions. The assumption is you (as a system builder) know exactly what you want to setup on the PC and will install any additional files required having licensed them from the source.

Microsoft OEM Partner Center

aspiring system builder actually. im a sophomore in college right now. i got the oem because its cheaper on newegg. The older gtx285 drivers and the shark007 pack seem to do the trick but now i have to go into the settings for the codecs and change it back to using msoft codecs when i want to watch tv...kind of a pain..

also ran memtest and got no errors
 

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ASUS ENGTX285 (GTX 285)
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Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi
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ASUS 1080p 24" HDMI
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WD 750GB (XP Pro 32bit)
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AC Arctic Freezer, 3 120mm fans
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Logitech Multimedia Keyboard
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actually that didn't fix it. shark007 codecs fix to disable the msoft ones doesn't work its STILL jumpy. any other ideas? it starts out ok but about half way through the video it starts to freak out again... :(
 

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8GB OCZ Fatal1ty DDR2 800Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS ENGTX285 (GTX 285)
Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi
Monitor(s) Displays
ASUS 1080p 24" HDMI
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
WD 750GB (XP Pro 32bit)
Samsung 750GB (Win7 Pro 64bit)
PSU
OCZ 700W
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Ultra X-Blaster Black ATX Mid-Tower
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AC Arctic Freezer, 3 120mm fans
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Logitech Multimedia Keyboard
Mouse
Logitech Laser Mouse
Take out all the sticks of RAM except the first. How is your RAM configured? Timings at default?
 

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9300M GS 256MB Dedicated (Speed) + Intel4500MHD (Stamina)
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Realtek HD Audio
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Take out all the sticks of RAM except the first. How is your RAM configured? Timings at default?

have 8GB (4x 2GB) dual channel so all slots are full. timings are stock and voltage is stock. 5-4-4-18 @ 1.8v

i removed all but the first slot (A1) and that didn't make a difference.
 

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8GB OCZ Fatal1ty DDR2 800Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS ENGTX285 (GTX 285)
Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi
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ASUS 1080p 24" HDMI
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
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WD 750GB (XP Pro 32bit)
Samsung 750GB (Win7 Pro 64bit)
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OCZ 700W
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Ultra X-Blaster Black ATX Mid-Tower
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AC Arctic Freezer, 3 120mm fans
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Logitech Multimedia Keyboard
Mouse
Logitech Laser Mouse
This may be a heat related issue. When your CPU reaches a certain temperature, it will throttle down. Remove the side panel from your case, shut down long enough for all system components to be cool, and try playing again to see if you go past where the video flaked out or can now watch it in it's entirety - if so, it's a cooling issue.
 
This may be a heat related issue. When your CPU reaches a certain temperature, it will throttle down. Remove the side panel from your case, shut down long enough for all system components to be cool, and try playing again to see if you go past where the video flaked out or can now watch it in it's entirety - if so, it's a cooling issue.

its a different place in the video every time. and the cpu doesnt get above 22% usage and 35-37 C when watching a 2hr video. memory hovers around 30% used. i logged it with nvmonitor.

all my videos play in other players perfect except for wmc and wmp so i really dont think its hardware thats causing it.
 

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Windows 7 Pro x64
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AMD Athlon X2 6000+ 3.1 GHz Dual Core
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ASUS M2N-E nForce 570
Memory
8GB OCZ Fatal1ty DDR2 800Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS ENGTX285 (GTX 285)
Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi
Monitor(s) Displays
ASUS 1080p 24" HDMI
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
WD 750GB (XP Pro 32bit)
Samsung 750GB (Win7 Pro 64bit)
PSU
OCZ 700W
Case
Ultra X-Blaster Black ATX Mid-Tower
Cooling
AC Arctic Freezer, 3 120mm fans
Keyboard
Logitech Multimedia Keyboard
Mouse
Logitech Laser Mouse
Run sfc /scannow at an elevated command prompt - if other programs work, then WMP and WMC may be corrupted. Doesn't seem to be hardware or heat either.
 

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Sony Vaio Z46GDU
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Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64
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[email protected] 1066MHz FSB
Motherboard
Sony branded
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6GB DDR3 1066MHz
Graphics Card(s)
9300M GS 256MB Dedicated (Speed) + Intel4500MHD (Stamina)
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
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13.1' WXGA
Screen Resolution
1600x900
Hard Drives
320GB 7200RPM w/ 16MB cache
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