| Windows 7: Resource hogging and window grabbing |
08 Jan 2010
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Resource hogging and window grabbing When I play back recorded TV, WMC is very greedy and eats up all of my CPU time. I can look at menus, TV Guide, etc. without problem - it's just playback that is the hassle.
But the really big problem that I've got is that even when the window is not full-screen, WMC doesn't like to let go of the focus so that I can surf the web, edit documents, etc. Again, this is a problem during playback. If I want to change window focus, I have to pause playback, click the window I want then start playback again. The mouse is effectively disabled during playback - movement is irregular, and mouse clicks are lost.
This hasn't happened to me in XP or Vista. I know that I need the WMC to be in a window (not maximised to full-screen) to easily swap windows - I'm used to that. But in Windows 7 this goes to a whole new level of inconvenience.
There are two key difference: one I'm using Windows 7 now, the other is that my twin monitors are both running from the same graphics card. I used to have two different graphics cards, but had driver issues when I moved to Windows 7 so I'm using both the VGA and the DVI port on a single (new) graphics card now.
Anyone had a similar problem and found a work around?
Steve | My System Specs |
| OS W7 Ultimate (32 bit) CPU Pentium Dual-core E6300 2@2.8GHz Memory 4 Gb Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS Monitor(s) Displays two genereric TFTs |
08 Jan 2010
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#2 | | Windows 7 x64 Ultimate SP1 Canada |

Quote: Originally Posted by stevef When I play back recorded TV, WMC is very greedy and eats up all of my CPU time. I can look at menus, TV Guide, etc. without problem - it's just playback that is the hassle.
But the really big problem that I've got is that even when the window is not full-screen, WMC doesn't like to let go of the focus so that I can surf the web, edit documents, etc. Again, this is a problem during playback. If I want to change window focus, I have to pause playback, click the window I want then start playback again. The mouse is effectively disabled during playback - movement is irregular, and mouse clicks are lost.
This hasn't happened to me in XP or Vista. I know that I need the WMC to be in a window (not maximised to full-screen) to easily swap windows - I'm used to that. But in Windows 7 this goes to a whole new level of inconvenience.
There are two key difference: one I'm using Windows 7 now, the other is that my twin monitors are both running from the same graphics card. I used to have two different graphics cards, but had driver issues when I moved to Windows 7 so I'm using both the VGA and the DVI port on a single (new) graphics card now.
Anyone had a similar problem and found a work around?
Steve Well an 8400GS with twin monitors and MCE to boot is pretty much self explanitory. I have an ATI 5850 on 1 24 inch screen and I can see when I use MCE that juice is well used. No slag mind you but like I said, the card speaks for itself. I think that youe issues will go away with a card upgrade. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Asus OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate SP1 CPU I5 875K Unlocked Motherboard P7P55D-E-PRO Memory Kingston HyperX Genesis DDR3-1600MHz 9-9-9-27 @ 1.65V XMP Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 570 HD 732 MHz GPU 1280 MB, 152 GB Mem Sound Card Onboard Via 1828S Monitor(s) Displays Samsung T240 HD Screen Resolution Dual 1920X1200 1027X768 Keyboard MS Mouse MS PSU Corsair Gold fully Modular 80 Plus 850 Case Coolermaster Half X Full Tower Cooling Noctua NH-U12P Hard Drives OCZ Vertex II Extended Sandforce SSD 60 Gig 2X WD Black Caviar 1 terabyte 6GBS Transer Sata 3 Marvell Chip Internet Speed Fast enough Other Info My fridge has a water tap |
08 Jan 2010
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Thanks for the quick reply, Zardoc. It's kinda what I thought the answer might be -but not the one I wanted since I've only just bought the card! So what would you suggest: an upgrade (replacement) card, or a second card for the second monitor, so that the processing is shared? What sort of card would you recommend, given a very tight budget? Any particular brand/model? How much memory? I know, I know, the best you can afford... but anyone with more specific advice? | My System Specs | | OS W7 Ultimate (32 bit) CPU Pentium Dual-core E6300 2@2.8GHz Memory 4 Gb Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS Monitor(s) Displays two genereric TFTs |
08 Jan 2010
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#4 | | W7 x64 3rd Rock from the Sun |
WMC is a pain in full screen as it traps and hides the cursor, so if you've got dual monitors it ain't much fun - there are some workarounds, but what I do is refrain from running it in full screen.
I've installed it on a slightly lower spec rig than yours and it's not hogging CPU cycles, so something smacks of being wrong there - however you could try opening task manager and right clicking the WMC process and setting the affinity to one CPU core only to free up resources.
Quite why it's being a resource hog isn't possible to state with certainty based on the information provided | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built machine OS W7 x64 CPU Intel Q9300 2.5Ghz Quad LGA775 (Would like Q9650) Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45T-UD3R (F6 Bios) Memory 4Gb OCZ Gold 1,333Mhz Graphics Card Palit HD4850 O/C Sonic 512Mb DDR3, Dual DViD's Sound Card Azalia to twin Samson 50w Studio Monitors Monitor(s) Displays Twin Dell (E-IPS) U2311H 23.6" Screens Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @ 60Hz Keyboard Cherry PS/2 custom model Mouse Lenovo USB laser "Thinkpad" Mouse PSU OCZ 600w Case Lian-Li PC8 acoustifoamed' aluminium tower Cooling Scythe 140mm Zipang Hard Drives Crucial M4 SSD, archives on twin Western Digital Caviar Black WD2002FAEX, 2TB, 7200rpm HDD's, Samsung Ritemaster CD/DVD Burner... Internet Speed ADSL2+ @14Mbps downstream & Cat6 Gigabit Ethernet Antivirus NOD32 Browser Opera Other Info Silicon Dust HD Homerun Dual FTA (Ethernet) TV Tuners, Dray Tek Vigor 2850Vn router and 8x HP Gigabit Switch. Lian-Li CR26 Card Reader, Canon MF4430 iSensys laser printer/scanner. |
08 Jan 2010
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#5 | | XP Pro/Vista Ultimate (64)/Windows 7 Ultimate Signature Edition(64) Cairns, Australia |

Quote: Originally Posted by stevef Thanks for the quick reply, Zardoc. It's kinda what I thought the answer might be -but not the one I wanted since I've only just bought the card! So what would you suggest: an upgrade (replacement) card, or a second card for the second monitor, so that the processing is shared? What sort of card would you recommend, given a very tight budget? Any particular brand/model? How much memory? I know, I know, the best you can afford... but anyone with more specific advice? Being an NVidia card, you're limited to using SLI with a matched pair of the same cards! ie. you'd have to buy another 8400GS...
If you can live without Aero, I'd suggest turning it off, and stopping any unnecessary background processes/applications from starting at system startup. Turn them off by using either start - type msconfig in search - enter - startup tab - uncheck any uneccessary items - reboot... or, Install CCleaner (without yahoo toolbar) open - tools - startup | My System Specs | | OS XP Pro/Vista Ultimate (64)/Windows 7 Ultimate Signature Edition(64) CPU Core 2 Duo E8500 @ stock Motherboard Gigabyte EP45-UD3R Memory 8Gb (4 X 2Gb) Corsair Dominator 1066Mhz DDR2 Graphics Card XFX ATI Radeon 4870 1Gb Sound Card Onboard 7.1 Monitor(s) Displays BenQ E2200Hd, Asus VW161D, HP L1506 Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 Keyboard Logitech Mouse Logitech PSU CoolerMaster 650 EPD Case Thermaltake Cooling 2 X Noctua 120mm's, Stock Intel Hard Drives Seagate 7200.12 500Gb
2 X Hitachi 1Tb |
08 Jan 2010
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To monitor CPU usage, Memory usage, Network usage, and Disk Activity in Windows 7 perform the following:
Type "resource" in the Start Menu search box and click on 'Resource Monitor'.
In the CPU category, check the process that you want to review.
This and the other categories will now show what resources are being used by that process (check the other cat's).
Also, nVidia can now and does support dual cards that are not identical. There are some limitations so visit their webiste for more information. With the latest set of drivers installed, your cards should work quiet well for WMC. Make sure all other drivers are up too date also, especially the chipset, at the manufacturer's support website.
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12 Jan 2010
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aha! Breakthrough! Thanks for the advice above - I didn't know about setting CPU affinity before, and have now done some tweaking. That improved things but didn't resolve the "dead" mouse - all clicks during WMC TV playback were lost. Then I realised that the same thing happened when I was playing some Flash games. Affiinity for that set too, and again some improvement with mouse movement, but the clicks were still being lost. Then I realised it wasn't the video performance that was causing the problem, but the sound! When I changed system units, I couldn't power my speakers, so plugged some USB speakers in. When I replaced them for speakers connected by mini-jack to the sound card - bingo! Problem disappeared! So the USB bus (sorry - is that tautologous?) must have been getting overloaded - the mouse is a USB connection as well.
I really appreciate the info and advice, though.
Steve
PS - twin monitors on the NVidia 8400GS are working fine for my purposes. I don't use lots of high-end video stuff normally, so for now I'll live with this setup. | My System Specs | | OS W7 Ultimate (32 bit) CPU Pentium Dual-core E6300 2@2.8GHz Memory 4 Gb Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS Monitor(s) Displays two genereric TFTs Resource hogging and window grabbing problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:30 PM. | |