Resource hogging and window grabbing

stevef · 08 Jan 2010

When I play back recorded TV, WMC is very greedy and eats up all of my CPU time. I can look at menus, TV Guide, etc. without problem - it's just playback that is the hassle.

But the really big problem that I've got is that even when the window is not full-screen, WMC doesn't like to let go of the focus so that I can surf the web, edit documents, etc. Again, this is a problem during playback. If I want to change window focus, I have to pause playback, click the window I want then start playback again. The mouse is effectively disabled during playback - movement is irregular, and mouse clicks are lost.

This hasn't happened to me in XP or Vista. I know that I need the WMC to be in a window (not maximised to full-screen) to easily swap windows - I'm used to that. But in W7 this goes to a whole new level of inconvenience.

There are two key difference: one I'm using W7 now, the other is that my twin monitors are both running from the same graphics card. I used to have two different graphics cards, but had driver issues when I moved to W7 so I'm using both the VGA and the DVI port on a single (new) graphics card now.

Anyone had a similar problem and found a work around?

Steve

Zardoc · 08 Jan 2010

stevef said:

When I play back recorded TV, WMC is very greedy and eats up all of my CPU time. I can look at menus, TV Guide, etc. without problem - it's just playback that is the hassle.

But the really big problem that I've got is that even when the window is not full-screen, WMC doesn't like to let go of the focus so that I can surf the web, edit documents, etc. Again, this is a problem during playback. If I want to change window focus, I have to pause playback, click the window I want then start playback again. The mouse is effectively disabled during playback - movement is irregular, and mouse clicks are lost.

This hasn't happened to me in XP or Vista. I know that I need the WMC to be in a window (not maximised to full-screen) to easily swap windows - I'm used to that. But in W7 this goes to a whole new level of inconvenience.

There are two key difference: one I'm using W7 now, the other is that my twin monitors are both running from the same graphics card. I used to have two different graphics cards, but had driver issues when I moved to W7 so I'm using both the VGA and the DVI port on a single (new) graphics card now.

Anyone had a similar problem and found a work around?

Steve

Well an 8400GS with twin monitors and MCE to boot is pretty much self explanitory. I have an ATI 5850 on 1 24 inch screen and I can see when I use MCE that juice is well used. No slag mind you but like I said, the card speaks for itself. I think that youe issues will go away with a card upgrade.

stevef · 08 Jan 2010

Thanks for the quick reply, Zardoc. It's kinda what I thought the answer might be -but not the one I wanted since I've only just bought the card! So what would you suggest: an upgrade (replacement) card, or a second card for the second monitor, so that the processing is shared? What sort of card would you recommend, given a very tight budget? Any particular brand/model? How much memory? I know, I know, the best you can afford... but anyone with more specific advice?

Qdos · 08 Jan 2010

WMC is a pain in full screen as it traps and hides the cursor, so if you've got dual monitors it ain't much fun - there are some workarounds, but what I do is refrain from running it in full screen.

I've installed it on a slightly lower spec rig than yours and it's not hogging CPU cycles, so something smacks of being wrong there - however you could try opening task manager and right clicking the WMC process and setting the affinity to one CPU core only to free up resources.

Quite why it's being a resource hog isn't possible to state with certainty based on the information provided

Orpheous · 08 Jan 2010

stevef said:

Thanks for the quick reply, Zardoc. It's kinda what I thought the answer might be -but not the one I wanted since I've only just bought the card! So what would you suggest: an upgrade (replacement) card, or a second card for the second monitor, so that the processing is shared? What sort of card would you recommend, given a very tight budget? Any particular brand/model? How much memory? I know, I know, the best you can afford... but anyone with more specific advice?

Being an NVidia card, you're limited to using SLI with a matched pair of the same cards! ie. you'd have to buy another 8400GS...
If you can live without Aero, I'd suggest turning it off, and stopping any unnecessary background processes/applications from starting at system startup. Turn them off by using either start - type msconfig in search - enter - startup tab - uncheck any uneccessary items - reboot... or, Install CCleaner (without yahoo toolbar) open - tools - startup
:)

AngelProcesser · 08 Jan 2010

To monitor CPU usage, Memory usage, Network usage, and Disk Activity in Windows 7 perform the following:

Type "resource" in the Start Menu search box and click on 'Resource Monitor'.
In the CPU category, check the process that you want to review.
This and the other categories will now show what resources are being used by that process (check the other cat's).

Also, nVidia can now and does support dual cards that are not identical. There are some limitations so visit their webiste for more information. With the latest set of drivers installed, your cards should work quiet well for WMC. Make sure all other drivers are up too date also, especially the chipset, at the manufacturer's support website.

stevef · 12 Jan 2010

aha! Breakthrough! Thanks for the advice above - I didn't know about setting CPU affinity before, and have now done some tweaking. That improved things but didn't resolve the "dead" mouse - all clicks during WMC TV playback were lost. Then I realised that the same thing happened when I was playing some Flash games. Affiinity for that set too, and again some improvement with mouse movement, but the clicks were still being lost. Then I realised it wasn't the video performance that was causing the problem, but the sound! When I changed system units, I couldn't power my speakers, so plugged some USB speakers in. When I replaced them for speakers connected by mini-jack to the sound card - bingo! Problem disappeared! So the USB bus (sorry - is that tautologous?) must have been getting overloaded - the mouse is a USB connection as well.

I really appreciate the info and advice, though.

Steve

PS - twin monitors on the NVidia 8400GS are working fine for my purposes. I don't use lots of high-end video stuff normally, so for now I'll live with this setup.