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Windows 7: Licensing employer's Office 2010 to run under XP Mode

03 Oct 2011   #1
MarshallAbrams

Windows 7 Enterprise 64bit
 
 
Licensing employer's Office 2010 to run under XP Mode

I'm trying to use XP Mode virtual machine to run Outlook at work. I have been able to get it to work technically, but have run into administrative problems having to do with Microsoft licensing policy. After a week or two of successful operation, I got a message in the VM when I started Outlook that my copy was not registered and I had 5 days to fix that issue.

The product manager for MS Office at my employer is saying that MS policy prevents licensing/registering MS Office on both the underlying Windows 7 and the XP mode VM on the same physical platform.

Is there a work around?


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03 Oct 2011   #2
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Do you need to run Outlook twice on the same system? Are you using an individual key or a MAK/KMS key?
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03 Oct 2011   #3
MarshallAbrams

Windows 7 Enterprise 64bit
 
 

I'm running XP mode so that I can hot sync my Palm Centro with Outlook. Palm abandoned its customer base and then was bought by HP, which dropped it. Palm desktop & hot sync will not run under Windows 7. I was able to sync successfully until XP mode until this licensing issue arose. In order for hot sync to work, it must communicate with Outlook. That's why i need Outlook in the XP VM.

I think that the product manager tried KMS, but I didn't write that down because she was controlling my computer using a remote control helpdesk product. If its important, I can ask her.
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06 Oct 2011   #4
MarshallAbrams

Windows 7 Enterprise 64bit
 
 
Can I take this problem to someone at Microsoft?

Is there someone at Microsoft to whom I can address this problem?
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06 Oct 2011   #5
Corazon

Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit
 
 

I assume the Palm software will not work in Windows 7 using XP compatibility mode (not the virtual XP machine)? Also I thought that applications running in virtual XP can communicate with native Windows 7 apps, but I could be wrong.
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06 Oct 2011   #6
cluberti

Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MarshallAbrams View Post
Is there someone at Microsoft to whom I can address this problem?
You could, but you wouldn't get anywhere - what you were initially told is correct. The XP Mode VM license for Windows that you acquire when you purchase a license for Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise, or Ultimate licenses just that - the virtual XP instance. Anything you install into that environment other than Windows itself needs to be licensed separately, and having Office installed on your Windows 7 machine and the Windows XP Mode virtual machine is still 2 installations, which is not allowed under the same license key unless that license key is a KMS key or a MAK key. If it was KMS, it would have activated against your KMS server automatically without entering a key (and stayed so for at least 90 - 120 days before trying to re-activate and potentially fail), so from what you've mentioned as the timeframe of this behavior it is definitely not a KMS key. If it was a MAK key, it would have activated at install time if the MAK key still had activations left on it, and they usually take far longer to fail (you'd see new activation attempts fail, rather than existing products dropping their activation this way). I would say again, given the behavior you've described, this does not seem to be a MAK key either. That leaves one possibility, and that is that this product key you are using is a one-license key (retail or OEM), and what you're doing violated that one-install license. Remember, just because it's a VM on a physical machine does not make it any less a machine - it's just virtual. Licensing of software in that XP Mode VM behaves exactly as it would a physical machine - if a retail or OEM key, you get one activation per installation, and if you activate twice, one of them will fail (and very soon thereafter).
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07 Oct 2011   #7
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

If it is a business account, unless you have a very small company, such as 5 or less employees, you should have a MAK license. That's what I was getting at. I have 27 people in my company, and we have one key. If I were to install Office on a host system and a guest, I'd have no issues.
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07 Oct 2011   #8
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

When you typically install the copy of Office 2010, it doesn't ask you for a key. After a period of time, Office will tell you that the product is going to stop working without activation. At that point, you can enter your MAK key, and it will then launch a little mini installer and you should be activated.

Your employer may NOT be willing however to provide you with the MAK key for this second installation...as they likely have only puchased X # of licenses from Microsoft and this would increase their operating costs.
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07 Mar 2012   #9
druekberg

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Just a note. Palm Hot Sync DOES work under W7, but only under the following circumstances:
1) Does not work with the USB cable. Sync does work via Bluetooth.
2) Does not sync with Outlook 2010, but does sync with Outlook 2007. (Or you can sync with Palm Desktop.)
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