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15 Jun 2009   #21

Vista Ult64, Win7600
 
 

I've been dual booting with Vista, and it is still good, and will be staying on my machines
for a long time to come, as I have said before, Viva La Vista.

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15 Jun 2009   #22

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I am certainly not going to join the majority here, as I still find Vista has bugs here and there. I have Vista Home Premium (x64) on one drive and Windows 7 build 7229 (x64) on the other. I switch between them through using drive caddies.

One example of an irritating bug on Vista which I DON'T GET on Windows 7, is when I play CNC3 Kane's Wrath. Most of the time when playing it on Vista, as soon as I come out of the game and back onto the desktop the OS is froze. This does NOT happen on Windows 7. I am STILL unable to get Vista to remember the maximize that I set on Windows Explorer desktop icon. It remembers the setting, but it doesn't open uip maximised! Now people will tell me that there is a way around this bug, but hey, I'm not interested in ways around things, these things should just work! Of course, I stopped using Windows Explorer a long time ago now, as I use Xplorer2 instead. Vista is still cumbersome and slow. Booting up time is longer than XP and Windows 7 on my system. Moving files around is slower. MediaPortal runs slower on Vista. Flys on Windows 7!!

There are other bugs and niggles that's I've come across on Vista, which I don't find on Windows 7 or XP. But I am not going to harp on about them. At the end of the day, Vista is nowhere near perfect. I'm glad that others on here have found it to be okay for them, but personally I would never recommend it to anyone. Right now I would tell people to hold on to their XP until Windows 7 comes out.

The last time I was this unimpressed with an OS was Windows Me. Although Vista is not THAT bad. lol.
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15 Jun 2009   #23

Win 7 Home X86 on 2 machines X64 on 3 machines WHS V1 on 1 machine
 
 

I am on a machine (Dell Inspiron 2200) now that Vista trashed. Haven't skipped a beat with any version of Win 7 that I've thrown at it. Enough said!
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15 Jun 2009   #24

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dzomlija View Post
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Finaly they made a cool looking and performant OS. seems an update for XP and not for vista. Wista was just a bad joke they made while they was building 7.
Is it my imagination or am I one of the few who actually found Vista to be a great OS?
No. You are not alone. I bought Windows Vista because I didn't believe the rumors and I also tried it once. This one time, I had absolutely no problems and I thought it was much cooler than XP.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dzomlija View Post
I feel oh so sorry for those poor, lost souls who prefer to accept rumors and speculation over fact. These are the people who decided that Vista was bad because they allowed OEM and computer stores to sell them poor hardware, or they listened to the Apple ads without realizing that it was nothing but propoganda from the competition that was afraid they could not keep up.
I agree here. XD Well, you can't blame them : they don't know anything in computer hardware. But, you can blame them in the fact that they don't even try it with somewhat decent hardware and make them realize that the rumors are false or exagerated.

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All those people who decided to stick with XP are going to have the hardest time of all moving over to Windows 7. Sure, Vista had it's problems in the start, but so did XP, and they've forgotten that.
Yes. It's harder to move from XP to Seven than from Vista to Seven. I agree firmly with the second sentence. It's the pure true fact. I remember, in the beginning of XP, I was still in high school, that people went "XP is bad! It takes too much of a big PC to run!" or "XP is bugged. Windows 98 forever!" Ah! Now, we see "Vista is bad! It takes too much memory. Windows XP forever!".

The hard true fact is that Seven has the same requirement has Vista and people seem to forget about that. *sigh*

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dzomlija View Post
I have yet to see one single shred of evidence that conclusively proves beyond all doubt that Vista is as bad as some people believe.
This.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dzomlija View Post
And I'm not thinking of "I heard that so-and-so had such-and-such a problem" or "Vista runs too slowly on my new laptop with 1GB of memory" or "UAC stops me from doing anything" or "I can't find x64 drivers for my 8 year old sound card".
Vista will never run well on 1GB of RAM. NEVER. If you want to stick 1GB of RAM, better use Linux or XP or give Windows 7 a try. Also, all the problems in rumors about Vista are exagerrated. There are no more driver disponibility problems except for old hardware. If there's a BSOD, you have to either blame the hardware or the drivers. Not Vista.

UAC stops me of doing anything. WHAT? QUOI? なに? Seriously, it gives you a warning before making something. It doesn't stop you. YES, the UAC in Vista is annoying but it doesn't stop you of doing anything. Microsoft never wanted you to stop doing anything on any of the systems they developped. I never saw that happen.

Old stuff is made to be recycled in re-made into something more recent. Old-stuff need to die. People always tell me "I don't need to change PC, I will always have XP". Never say always. One day, one part will die and it will be time to buy something else and that something else won't have XP. So, it's time to get a better sound card that WILL have 64-bit drivers. The better sound card will give you better sound and more options and will make you upgrade the number of channels you can actually put on it. That for... 50$? Pretty much. Even less. There are no problems with the mobo because there's still PCI sound cards out there.


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dzomlija View Post
We all know by experience that 95% of what gave Vista such a bad rep was not the fault of Vista, but of hardware manufacturers that installed it onto under-specced hardware, or got caught napping when it came time to update driver software for their hardware products.
Yeah. Instead of making progress in hardware, they were still installing Vista on the same machine that would have XP and in which XP would run better. Most laptops has Intel integrated chipsets and at that time Intel didn't release any video chip that could take both Aero and Direct X 10. Meaning that Aero would be desactivated AND performance to be extremely bad coz of the lack of RAM.

Also, like you said, the drivers were developped much later meaning that it could be a pain to make something work in the beginning. But, it's the hardware manufacturer's fault. ENTIRELY.

Now, only because "Windows 7 will be the savior from Vista and the real upgrade to XP" manufacturers decided to write their drivers in advance. Which is kind of lame. Like Vista wasn't announced long enough before its release.

All the people I know that use Vista all says that they are satisfied with it. In those people, I even have gamers (excludes my brother and father... they are still on XP but will move to Windows 7 upon release *facepalm*). So, I don't think it's MS fault and Vista is still a pretty good OS. Maybe not as good as XP is at the moment but still pretty good. It is NOT as bad as Millenium was. ME WAS BS, not Vista.
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15 Jun 2009   #25

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

+1 rep for you. That was the best argument I've ever seen.

Anyway, what is this about Me? I was only in elementary school and still had Windows 98 when Windows XP came out and I believe my brother had just got a summer job at Microsoft, allowing him to get good Microsoft software. Basically, we went straight from Windows 98 to XP, skipping Me and 2000. Now I'm curious why Me was so bad. Wikipedia says it was very unstable, unreliable, and the System Restore function led to bringing back malware sometimes. What else was bad about it?
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15 Jun 2009   #26

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Klaw117 View Post
Wikipedia says it was very unstable, unreliable, and the System Restore function led to bringing back malware sometimes.
I've used ME for about a year (with my first ever computer). Unstable and unreliable are probably the best words for it. Every argument were good to move from it.

If you ever had the bad luck to remove Windows Media Player for it, you wouldn't even be able to re-install it... :\

At least Vista is stable and doesn't have the problems ME had. That is why we can't say that Vista is a bad OS.
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15 Jun 2009   #27

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
i could never understand how people prefered xp over vista it was so damn ugly ...i was very happy with vistas performance even prior to tweaking it services etc...
but can i go back now having used 7 ??
Neither could I. I first got Vista x64 ultimate about a month after it's official release, and had been using it for nearly 2 years before I started using Windows 7 Beta Build 7000, which I was pleasantly surprised to find out was indeed better than Vista.

That's not to say Vista was bad. Everything I threw at it worked. With the exception of my Canon Lide20 scanner for which I could not get x64 drivers. But that would be the fault of Canon now, wouldn't it?

All my regular work applications (CorelDraw, PaintShopPro, Office, Delphi RAD Studio, Expression Web) worked better that ever before. And this may come as a surprise to some (chances are some wouldn't believe me), but even games worked better, including some classic titles like Diablo I, Diablo II and Age of Empires II. All without the aid of compatibility mode or virtualization.

There's a burger shop here that advertises regularly on TV here, and they use the slogan "If you don't like it, you havn't tried it!". This is generally true also for people that don't like Vista. They hate it because they don't know, and cannot accept that XP is dead.

The only place I'd like to see XP is in the halls of nostalgia when I find my original pre-SP1 cd in my collection, or in Windows 7 XP Mode for that extremely rare instance that I load something that doesn't work natively in Windows 7. I've currently used XP mode only now during the BETA phase of Windows 7 so that I can learn how to use it. Otherwise, all my day-to-day work happens on applications that work 100% flawlessly in Windows 7.
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16 Jun 2009   #28

Main: Dual Boot (Vista SP2 64 Ultimate & Win7 64 7100) Laptop:Win7 64 7100
 
 

I also tend to mostly agree with the OP. I installed Vista 64 around the Summer of 07 and it ran great. I however can't say the same for my Laptop which had Vista 32 on it. Even after updating it to SP1 it was still exhibiting issues. I pretty much chalked it up to being the OEM install being bloated. After I did a Clean install of Win 7 64 7100 it rus the best it ever has! But my main machine has pretty much run great with vista (with the exception of the beta builds of SP2 which it didn't like at all).
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14 Jul 2009   #29

Windows 7 RC Build7100
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dzomlija View Post
Is it my imagination or am I one of the few who actually found Vista to be a great OS?

I feel oh so sorry for those poor, lost souls who prefer to accept rumors and speculation over fact. These are the people who decided that Vista was bad because they allowed OEM and computer stores to sell them poor hardware, or they listened to the Apple ads without realizing that it was nothing but propoganda from the competition that was afraid they could not keep up.

All those people who decided to stick with XP are going to have the hardest time of all moving over to Windows 7. Sure, Vista had it's problems in the start, but so did XP, and they've forgotten that.

I have yet to see one single shred of evidence that conclusively proves beyond all doubt that Vista is as bad as some people believe.

And I'm not thinking of "I heard that so-and-so had such-and-such a problem" or "Vista runs too slowly on my new laptop with 1GB of memory" or "UAC stops me from doing anything" or "I can't find x64 drivers for my 8 year old sound card".

We all know by experience that 95% of what gave Vista such a bad rep was not the fault of Vista, but of hardware manufacturers that installed it onto under-specced hardware, or got caught napping when it came time to update driver software for their hardware products.
I still think the Vista Beta before RTM was ALOT quicker than vista ultimate currently is. Vista as a whole is not bad. Microsoft in order to promote it better screwed them selves when they based the "Vista compatiable" test on a slimmed down "Core" version of vista so they could market cheaper hardware to run on the system. So people went out to buy their new vista PC and were dissappointed in the performance when it was running on some Hardware that it should not of been running on.
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14 Jul 2009   #30

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I liked vista 64 bit for gaming, it ran them all smoothly with some tweaking of video drivers, and movies and other media performed well also.

Most of my other stuff I don the mac side, but for what I needed vista was great.

I never quite saw why people bashed it so much, but everyone has got an opinion, whether we agree is another story.
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