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Windows 7: Splitting video in Windows Live Movie Maker


04 Jan 2011   #11

Windows 7 Professional 32bit Sp1
 
 

Thanks for all the help and suggestions. I was able to split the video and upload to Youtube. I set it to direct stream copy and the splits only took seconds to save.

What's a keyframe?

One more thing. Within minutes of uploading part III of my video, Youtube flag it with for a copyrighted song, and muted the audio for the entire video*. Rather than use their Audio Swap BS, how can I cut the out the minute and 45 seconds the song is playing? The guilty song begins at 1:46.

* If the software can identify the song why can't they just mute that part?


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04 Jan 2011   #12

Windows 7 Ultimate x86
 
 

You're most welcome, Hikertrash.
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What's a keyframe
Virtual Dub was originally created to edit ASFs and AVIs.
The main reason why AVIs are smaller than the original Movie clips without degrading the pictures too much were in the way those Clips were compressed. A good exlplanation you can find here:
Key frame - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Problem you'll see if you cut besides key frames is a completely distorted picture for several seconds (because vital picture information is missing and will be substituted by garbage) until the player reaches the next key frame (thus getting a stable picture again)

As for your Audio problem..that's a little more work-intensive: You'd have to
#1) Export the complete audio of said clip (nr.3, was it?)
#2) Edit the Audio track by either mute the duration of the copyrighted song or exchange it for something other
#3) Re-import the new audio stream to overwrite the original one.

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* If the software can identify the song why can't they just mute that part?
Because frankly they don't give a *** They just mute the whole clip and are safe from retributions from the copyright holders....Go the way of the least resistance seems to be the policy here

If you need more help with the audio part, let me know

-DG
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04 Jan 2011   #13
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Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

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I thought the ten minute limit only applied to the screen capture app.
Hmm, you may be right. Since the 2 programs come together, I assumed it applied to both. But now I am not sure any more. Matter of trying - I have only used it for short clips up to now.
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04 Jan 2011   #14

Windows 7 Professional 32bit Sp1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SledgeDG View Post

As for your Audio problem..that's a little more work-intensive: You'd have to
#1) Export the complete audio of said clip (nr.3, was it?)
#2) Edit the Audio track by either mute the duration of the copyrighted song or exchange it for something other
#3) Re-import the new audio stream to overwrite the original one.
OK, I think I can handle that. Would I have to use a program like Audacity to split and splice the audio? I'm really not sure what I can use. I'll find something obscure.

You'd think the powers that be would be happy you used their music. It's credited at the end of the movie. Free advertising.

BTW, a friend made this Movie which is a slideshow with interviews about a hiking groups 25th Anniversary and only used a couple copyrighted songs. One by Eva Cassidy "A Wonderful Life" was allowed to remain and YT provided a link to her works.

There is one other song on the same video by the Allman Brothers "Little Martha" where I've see has the link like Cassidy's. Hopefully, it will be treated the same.
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04 Jan 2011   #15

Windows 7 Ultimate x86
 
 

Well...the audio part is probably in MP3 or wav format so Audacity sounds like a plan
The easiest way would be, load that 3rd clip back into VirtualDub and export the audio part under Files/Save WAV. Leave virtualDub open.
Load that Wav into Audacity, Mark the area of the copyrighted clip and set it to mute. save it and go back to Virtual Dub again. now you substitute the old audio with the edited one via AUDIO/Browse for Audio. Save it again and you're back in business

Hope they leave your other clips alone

-DG
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04 Jan 2011   #16

Windows 7 Professional 32bit Sp1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SledgeDG View Post
Well...the audio part is probably in MP3 or wav format so Audacity sounds like a plan
The easiest way would be, load that 3rd clip back into VirtualDub and export the audio part under Files/Save WAV. Leave virtualDub open.
Load that Wav into Audacity, Mark the area of the copyrighted clip and set it to mute. save it and go back to Virtual Dub again. now you substitute the old audio with the edited one via AUDIO/Browse for Audio. Save it again and you're back in business

Hope they leave your other clips alone

-DG
Thanks. That sounds like what I need to do. I'll let you know.

Edit: Ran into a glitch (why am I not surprised?) Although it played another wav clip I found on my laptop, it seems like Audacity had a problem.


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05 Jan 2011   #17

Windows 7 Professional 32bit Sp1
 
 

OK, I was able to edit the audio portion of the video using VirtualDub to extract the wav and Adobe Soundbooth to silence the minute 30 with the copyrighted song and re-upload to Youtube.

Since I lost some valuable commentary, ideally I'd like to atleast separate the voice from the music. Attempting that will be my next step.
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05 Jan 2011   #18

Windows 7 Ultimate x86
 
 

Oh Boy....since that's already muxed in the audio track it's near impossible to separate it later on.
Your best bet would be, to have the original commentary from a point before the music was mixed in.
If you absolutely have to do it with the material at hand...would be playing with the frequencys (but I'm not sure if Audacity can do it...I used to play around with Soundforge (a GREAT Program but unfortunately not free)
Anyhow...the results are usually less than optimal. You'd be better off , grabbing a mike and speak said comment over the mute part yourself.

-DG
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05 Jan 2011   #19

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

I agree with SladgeDG 100%. Splitting voice and music is nigh impossible even for the professional with all their expensive kit. Not a road worth going down.
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06 Jan 2011   #20

Windows 7 Professional 32bit Sp1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mitchell65 View Post
I agree with SladgeDG 100%. Splitting voice and music is nigh impossible even for the professional with all their expensive kit. Not a road worth going down.
Yeah, seems like too much trouble... I was lucky enough to be able use a buddies laptop for Sound Booth.

Again, thanks for all the advice, especially Sladge. The DVD was distributed throughout the organization so most members have it. I just uploaded to Youtube as a convenience and for others outside the org. As is, I'll call it close enough.
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