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Windows 7 - Best way to secure large amounts of data? |
07-10-2011
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Best way to secure large amounts of data? I have a 2TB hard drive which I bought to back up my DVD collection. At the time I thought I would never fill it, but at this point it is almost full and I can easily see myself filling another one some time in the future.
I plan on adding another 2TB drive and putting them in RAID to appear as one volume, but I did this in the past (in RAID 0) and when one drive failed I lost everything. What would be the best way to keep 3-4TB of data safe?
Is there an easy backup method or am I gonna have to bite the bullet and buy 3 more 2TB drives so I can do a RAID 1+0 configuration? I know this is a good way to do this, but I am cringing at having 4TB of space that is basically there just for backup. It seems like a ton of space to waste.
Help me out here.
| My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 |
07-10-2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1, LinuxMint 9 LTS x64, Debian 6, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS x64 |
Hi,
I would definately not consider a RAID0 for a backup since there is no redundancy as you discovered : at a minimum you might consider a RAID1, but that means you require 4 x 1TB disks to create a backup of 2TB. How many free SATA ports do you have?
You might consider buying a few large inexpensive external USB drives (2TB are common now) and backing up to that. Alternatively, a few 2TB internal disks is the other option, and relatively inexpensive. A much more expensive solution is an external NAS.
Regards,
Golden | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Golden Mk. I.3 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1, LinuxMint 9 LTS x64, Debian 6, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS x64 CPU Intel i7 860 @ 2.80 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte P55A-UD3R Rev.1. Award BIOS F13 Memory 16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Channel (9-9-9-24) Graphics Card EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB Sound Card Realtek Integrated Monitor(s) Displays Dual Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS Screen Resolution 1920*1080 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W Case Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z Cooling Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans Hard Drives 1*OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD;
2*Samsung F3 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID0;
2*Samsung F1 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID1;
1*Western Digital WD10EARS 1TB
1*Western Digital 500GB External USB 3.0
1*Seagate 500GB External USB 2.0 Internet Speed Not fast enough!!! |
07-10-2011
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Could you explain NAS to me a little bit? If it was more expensive to start up, but cheaper in the long run (say if my collection grew to an enormous size), I might consider it. Also, I serve my entire DVD collection stored on my main PC to 3 other computers around the house as a sort of media network. Would NAS have any advantages for that type of use?
Thanks for the quick reply... | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 |
07-10-2011
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#4 | | Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2 |

Quote: Originally Posted by dkplayaclub ...I know this is a good way to do this, but I am cringing at having 4TB of space that is basically there just for backup. It seems like a ton of space to waste... If one of your drives crashed and you didn't lose any of your data you wouldn't consider it wasted. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self OS Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2 CPU Main - Core i7 2600K; 2nd - Core i7 920 Motherboard Main - Asus P8Z68-V Pro/Gen3; 2nd - Gigabyte GA-EX58-UDR3 Memory Main - 16GB Corsair Vengeance; 2nd - 12GB Corsair Vengeance Graphics Card Main - XFX Radeon 6870 1GB; 2nd - XFX Radeon 4870 1GB Sound Card Both: Onboard Realtek Azalia Monitor(s) Displays Main - Hann 25" + I-INC 25" + Acer 23"; 2nd - Upgrading Soon Screen Resolution Main - 1920x1080 (All Three Monitors); 2nd - Upgrading Soon Keyboard Main - Razer Reclusa; 2nd - Old MS Keyboard Mouse Main - Logitech MX Revolution; 2nd - Old MS Mouse PSU Main - OCZ 600W Modular; 2nd - OCZ 600W Case Main - Thermaltake Element G; 2nd - NZXT something or other Cooling Main - Corsair H80; 2nd - Prolimatech Megahalems Hard Drives Main - (1) Crucial M4 128GB (Boot)
Main - (1) Seagate 2TB 64MB Cache (Data)
Main - (1) Seagate 2TB 64MB Cache (Data Backup)
2nd - (1) Intel X25-M SSD 80GB (Boot)
2nd - (3) Seagate 1TB 32MB Cache (Data Backup)
2nd - (1) Seagate 320GB (Because) Internet Speed 20Mbps Time-Warner Cable |
07-10-2011
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Quote: Originally Posted by profdlp 
Quote: Originally Posted by dkplayaclub ...I know this is a good way to do this, but I am cringing at having 4TB of space that is basically there just for backup. It seems like a ton of space to waste... If one of your drives crashed and you didn't lose any of your data you wouldn't consider it wasted.  Quite true Prof.. I had 2 400TB drives in RAID0 and when one crashed, I lost a collection that took me about 3 years to amass. I just don't like the idea of having to look at that mass of unused space. Also, I am going to have to deal with the limitation of space for internal drives as my collection grows. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 |
07-10-2011
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1, LinuxMint 9 LTS x64, Debian 6, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS x64 |
Hi,
A NAS is basically network storage : Network-attached storage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
They are pretty expensive depending on how large you want to go : the cost involves the NAS unit/controller itself as well as the disks. A cheaper alternative might be a cheap computer with lots of disks, on your network.
Regards,
Golden | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Golden Mk. I.3 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1, LinuxMint 9 LTS x64, Debian 6, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS x64 CPU Intel i7 860 @ 2.80 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte P55A-UD3R Rev.1. Award BIOS F13 Memory 16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Channel (9-9-9-24) Graphics Card EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB Sound Card Realtek Integrated Monitor(s) Displays Dual Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS Screen Resolution 1920*1080 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W Case Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z Cooling Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans Hard Drives 1*OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD;
2*Samsung F3 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID0;
2*Samsung F1 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID1;
1*Western Digital WD10EARS 1TB
1*Western Digital 500GB External USB 3.0
1*Seagate 500GB External USB 2.0 Internet Speed Not fast enough!!! |
07-10-2011
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OK. I did a quick read through of the NAS article on Wikipedia, and also looked at a Pros/Cons article on NAS units. One thing I read that was very cool is that NAS units allow my collection to be shared on the web to be accessed from other places. Is this true?
If so, this is a HUGE plus, but I am concerned as to the speed of access. I don't want to deal with astounding buffering problems. Assuming good connection, would I be able to watch DVD video from a friend's house via the web?
Also, would I be able to achieve the same thing from a server PC with multiple hard drives? If so, this would be a cheaper solution based on what I've read. Also, the server PC would be able to run other applications I may need. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 |
07-10-2011
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#8 | | Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Golden ...A cheaper alternative might be a cheap computer with lots of disks, on your network... After looking things over pretty well that was the conclusion I came to. The only big advantage to a NAS device that I see is (potential) ease of setup and smaller size. It might be nice to have all your movies on a dinky box in the living room and still be able to watch stuff in your den, but I could live with a somewhat larger box in my computer room and still do the same thing. My backup storage computer also functions as a print server and scanner station, meaning I don't have to install all that stuff on my main machine. 
Quote: Originally Posted by dkplayaclub ...I had 2 400TB drives in RAID0 and when one crashed, I lost a collection that took me about 3 years to amass. I just don't like the idea of having to look at that mass of unused space. Also, I am going to have to deal with the limitation of space for internal drives as my collection grows. It wasn't so long ago that we all had 160GB drives and thought they were huge. If you had only 160GB free on your 2TB drive you'd consider it to be pretty much full. I don't know if I'll ever get used to it enough to really keep up, but with the explosion in data I guess it pays to be philosophical about it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self OS Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2 CPU Main - Core i7 2600K; 2nd - Core i7 920 Motherboard Main - Asus P8Z68-V Pro/Gen3; 2nd - Gigabyte GA-EX58-UDR3 Memory Main - 16GB Corsair Vengeance; 2nd - 12GB Corsair Vengeance Graphics Card Main - XFX Radeon 6870 1GB; 2nd - XFX Radeon 4870 1GB Sound Card Both: Onboard Realtek Azalia Monitor(s) Displays Main - Hann 25" + I-INC 25" + Acer 23"; 2nd - Upgrading Soon Screen Resolution Main - 1920x1080 (All Three Monitors); 2nd - Upgrading Soon Keyboard Main - Razer Reclusa; 2nd - Old MS Keyboard Mouse Main - Logitech MX Revolution; 2nd - Old MS Mouse PSU Main - OCZ 600W Modular; 2nd - OCZ 600W Case Main - Thermaltake Element G; 2nd - NZXT something or other Cooling Main - Corsair H80; 2nd - Prolimatech Megahalems Hard Drives Main - (1) Crucial M4 128GB (Boot)
Main - (1) Seagate 2TB 64MB Cache (Data)
Main - (1) Seagate 2TB 64MB Cache (Data Backup)
2nd - (1) Intel X25-M SSD 80GB (Boot)
2nd - (3) Seagate 1TB 32MB Cache (Data Backup)
2nd - (1) Seagate 320GB (Because) Internet Speed 20Mbps Time-Warner Cable |
07-10-2011
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#9 | | Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2 |
I type too slow...
For remote access, the NAS "should" make it easier. It's still quite doable on a regular computer but the NAS should have that semi-configured for you. A word of caution would be to look closely at the reviews - it's my understanding that there is a lot of difference between different models when it comes to being simple to set up. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self OS Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2 CPU Main - Core i7 2600K; 2nd - Core i7 920 Motherboard Main - Asus P8Z68-V Pro/Gen3; 2nd - Gigabyte GA-EX58-UDR3 Memory Main - 16GB Corsair Vengeance; 2nd - 12GB Corsair Vengeance Graphics Card Main - XFX Radeon 6870 1GB; 2nd - XFX Radeon 4870 1GB Sound Card Both: Onboard Realtek Azalia Monitor(s) Displays Main - Hann 25" + I-INC 25" + Acer 23"; 2nd - Upgrading Soon Screen Resolution Main - 1920x1080 (All Three Monitors); 2nd - Upgrading Soon Keyboard Main - Razer Reclusa; 2nd - Old MS Keyboard Mouse Main - Logitech MX Revolution; 2nd - Old MS Mouse PSU Main - OCZ 600W Modular; 2nd - OCZ 600W Case Main - Thermaltake Element G; 2nd - NZXT something or other Cooling Main - Corsair H80; 2nd - Prolimatech Megahalems Hard Drives Main - (1) Crucial M4 128GB (Boot)
Main - (1) Seagate 2TB 64MB Cache (Data)
Main - (1) Seagate 2TB 64MB Cache (Data Backup)
2nd - (1) Intel X25-M SSD 80GB (Boot)
2nd - (3) Seagate 1TB 32MB Cache (Data Backup)
2nd - (1) Seagate 320GB (Because) Internet Speed 20Mbps Time-Warner Cable |
07-10-2011
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Have to hit the proverbial hay for the night, but any extra food for thought is always welcome. I have some fun money saved up, but all the help I can get is helpful. Can't wait to get my uber-server up and running.
Thanks again to the best user community I have found on the net. You guys rule.... | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Best way to secure large amounts of data? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:07 PM. |  |