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Windows 7 - Windows sees MP3 tags, but no audio players do |
11-07-2011
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
Windows sees MP3 tags, but no audio players do A very strange thing:
I have a pretty large MP3 collection I've mostly ripped from my CD's. I used iTunes to rip them and they came with the proper ID3 information attached. Worked beautifully with pretty much everything and anything.
I recently did some reorganizing of my file system and I moved all of my music files to another internal drive. And suddenly no music player recognizes the appropriate information. However, when I browse the files in Windows Explorer, the tags show up just fine and I can organize my files according to them.
What could be the reason for such strange behaviour? And more importantly: is there a good way to solve this?
| My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
11-07-2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 Pro x64 / WinXP Pro x86 on (1), Win7 Pro X64 / WinXP Pro x86 on (2) |
Use a reliable, popular, widely regarded and easy-to-use free 3rd-party tag utility such as MP3Tag, to examine your MP3 files. Using Windows components, players, Explorer, etc., can often mislead you or hide what's really going on. Same with other all-in-one products (e.g. Media Monkey) which are powerful, but "intrusive" and somewhat mystical. You get much more useful and manually controlled results using specific 3rd-party tools such as MP3Tag.
You will see whether or not there truly are valid tags inside of your MP3 files. If not, you can easily manually edit/repair them with MP3Tag... although this doesn't explain where they might have disappeared to, or were actually stored when you built the MP3 files in the first place.
I'm not familiar with iTunes (don't use it, never have) so I don't know what it might have done. I build my own MP3 and FLAC files from my own CDs using Audiograbber and LAME, or Audiograbber and FLAC-Frontend. Tags are 100% properly imbedded in all files by either process. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home-built, two systems (1) and (2) OS Windows 7 Pro x64 / WinXP Pro x86 on (1), Win7 Pro X64 / WinXP Pro x86 on (2) CPU E6850 3.0Ghz/4MB-cache (1); E8400 3.0Ghz/6MB-cache (2) Motherboard SuperMicro C2SBX (1); ASUS P5Q3 (2) Memory 4GB PC3-8500 DDR3 (1); 4GB PC3-10600 DDR3 (2) Graphics Card ATI HD4850 (1); ATI HD5770 (dual-DVI) (2) (see TV cards) Sound Card Realtek ALC883 HD Audio (1); Realtek ALC1200 HD Audio (2) Monitor(s) Displays Eizo 24" S2433W (1); Eizo HD2441W LCD, Eizo S2433W (2) Screen Resolution 1920x1200 (1); 1920x1200, 1920x1200 (2) Keyboard IBM PS/2 (1) and (2) Mouse Microsoft wired (1); Logitech MX Revolution wireless (2) PSU Nesteq ECS-6001 600W (1); Nesteq ECS-5001 500W (2) Case Acousti-Case 360 (1) and (2) Cooling Zalman CNPS9700-NT for CPU, 2x120mm case fans (1) and (2) Hard Drives (1) 1x1TB SATA (7200 RPM), 1x300GB U320 SCSI (10000RPM), 1x750GB SATA (7200RPM), 1x150GB SATA (10000RPM) for OS;
(2) 1x320GB SATA (7200RPM), 1x140GB SCSI 10000RPM U320, 1x150GB SATA (10000RPM) for OS Internet Speed 15mbps down / 2mbps up Other Info Ceton InfiniTV 4-tuner cablecard-enabled TV card as well as ATI TV Wonder 650 Combo PCIe OTA/ATSC 2-tuner TV card in (2), running under Win7 WMC |
11-07-2011
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#3 | | windows 7 64 bit and dual boot Pinguyos |
I suspect that itunes has tagged them with its own tag or used its own codec in much the same way that when you open itunes it will reasign all your mp3 files to files it will recognise, i.e aac, its clever like that | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number home built PC. Laptop studio1557 OS windows 7 64 bit and dual boot Pinguyos CPU PC, intel i7 920 2.7ghz, laptop i7 720 Motherboard PC, Asus P6t .laptop probably rubbish from dell Memory PC 6GB, laptop 2GB, me 2 seconds after 6 pints Graphics Card PC Asus eah5870,laptop, ati hd 4580 Monitor(s) Displays Sharp 42" HD TV using HDMI + HDMI to onkyo surround amp Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard logitek wave Mouse x8 sidewinder PSU OCZ 700w Case antec 902 Cooling antec khuler h20 920 Hard Drives 1x ssd OCZ 60GB, 2x250GB raid0, 2x1TB (storage),2TB Internet Speed dog slow |
11-07-2011
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There are many variations of the ID3 tag and a single mp3 can have multiple TAG versions applied to it, personally I think winamp does a stellar job of showing you this information, however it's autotagger has previously made some errors and I ended up with wrongly identified tracks being updated in my library. Although 99 percent of the thousands of files I threw at it came up perfectly.
razy, iTunes will handle mp3's normally, unless you edited or imported the info through the iTunes interface in which case it will default to putting this data in the iTunes version of the ID3 tag and create one if it dosn't already have one. Of course for formats iTunes isn't licensed to play such as .wma's you are quite right it will convert them.
MP3 Tag is a great recommendation to fix your problem, I just thought I'd let you know why it might have happened.
(when you say no music player will read the tags are you excluding itunes?) | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Build OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core2 Quad Q8300 2.5Ghz (@3.0Ghz) Motherboard Asus P5QD Turbo Memory Kingston HyperX 2x1GB DDR2 1066Mhz Graphics Card Asus/Nvidia 9500GT 1GB Sound Card On-Board HD Monitor(s) Displays 22" Widescreen TFT Screen Resolution 1920x1080 PSU 650w Case ATX with Mesh Detail no window (yet) Cooling 140mm front, 120mm Rear, 80mm Chipset + stock CPU and GPU Hard Drives 2x 320GB Seagate SATAII RAID 0 Internet Speed 12Mbps Other Info BT Home Hub 2.0B Unlocked to other ISP and VOIP |
11-07-2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
This issue is now solved. Thanks to everybody for chipping in. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
11-07-2011
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#6 | | Windows 7 Pro x64 / WinXP Pro x86 on (1), Win7 Pro X64 / WinXP Pro x86 on (2) |

Quote: Originally Posted by henrikzog This issue is now solved. Thanks to everybody for chipping in. Glad it's closed, but for closure what turned out to be the explanation for what you saw? What was the actual problem and what was the actual solution you implemented???
What did the tags look like when you investigated? Did you have to manually correct things? MP3Tag? Winamp? What?
(don't leave us curious cats in the dark) | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home-built, two systems (1) and (2) OS Windows 7 Pro x64 / WinXP Pro x86 on (1), Win7 Pro X64 / WinXP Pro x86 on (2) CPU E6850 3.0Ghz/4MB-cache (1); E8400 3.0Ghz/6MB-cache (2) Motherboard SuperMicro C2SBX (1); ASUS P5Q3 (2) Memory 4GB PC3-8500 DDR3 (1); 4GB PC3-10600 DDR3 (2) Graphics Card ATI HD4850 (1); ATI HD5770 (dual-DVI) (2) (see TV cards) Sound Card Realtek ALC883 HD Audio (1); Realtek ALC1200 HD Audio (2) Monitor(s) Displays Eizo 24" S2433W (1); Eizo HD2441W LCD, Eizo S2433W (2) Screen Resolution 1920x1200 (1); 1920x1200, 1920x1200 (2) Keyboard IBM PS/2 (1) and (2) Mouse Microsoft wired (1); Logitech MX Revolution wireless (2) PSU Nesteq ECS-6001 600W (1); Nesteq ECS-5001 500W (2) Case Acousti-Case 360 (1) and (2) Cooling Zalman CNPS9700-NT for CPU, 2x120mm case fans (1) and (2) Hard Drives (1) 1x1TB SATA (7200 RPM), 1x300GB U320 SCSI (10000RPM), 1x750GB SATA (7200RPM), 1x150GB SATA (10000RPM) for OS;
(2) 1x320GB SATA (7200RPM), 1x140GB SCSI 10000RPM U320, 1x150GB SATA (10000RPM) for OS Internet Speed 15mbps down / 2mbps up Other Info Ceton InfiniTV 4-tuner cablecard-enabled TV card as well as ATI TV Wonder 650 Combo PCIe OTA/ATSC 2-tuner TV card in (2), running under Win7 WMC |
11-08-2011
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#7 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
Well, unfortunately the solution wasn't very creative or helpful to the general public. MP3Tag diagnosed the problem and indicated that the tags were simply corrupted for some reason. I tried getting suggestions from there to see if I can bring them back to health, but unfortunately their suggestion ended up wiping out the little tag information I had.
In the end, I went to my external backup drive, copied and reimported everything and the tags were fine on those files. It's probably what I should've done to begin with, but since it's pretty cumbersome to move around large batches of files, I wanted to find if a more streamlined (read: nerdy) solution was possible. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit Windows sees MP3 tags, but no audio players do problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:10 PM. |  |