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Windows 7: I need some help on searching for a specific .avi file

20 Jan 2013   #11
Kari

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Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 4wd View Post
jeez, once upon a time searching for lost files was a simple, easy and failsafe task i windows.
It still is. Extremely easy, fast and reliable. You just need to know how to use Windows Search.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 4wd View Post
You of course know that Agent Ransack is a light version of File Locator. Here some tests I have made between File Locator and Windows Search: More on search hell

Kari


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20 Jan 2013   #12
4wd

W8+8.1, W7 ult+hp, XP
 
 

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You of course know that Agent Ransack is a light version of File Locator. Here some tests I have made between File Locator and Windows Search: More on search hell
Can only quote mjf in #53

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Here are the results of my tests which still convince me Agent Ransack / FileLocator Lite(FLL) is here to stay for me. Windows for me at least (and others I'm sure) is an untrusty/flaky piece of software.
Some are happy with w7 search (IMO a bizarre and clumsy interface (when it comes to setting criterias) + a tendency to return no or random results), but many are dissatisfied, and do experience problems performing even the simplest searches.

Whatever the situation, Agent Ransack (one among many dedicated search programs) is an alternative, free to try out then simply see from practical use if one likes it over w7 search, or (as I do) use w7 search for some tasks, and Agent for others (as when there is reason to believe w7 did not return correct or complete results).
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20 Jan 2013   #13
Kari

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center
 
 

Of course I understand not everyone is capable to learn and understand the simple instructions and usage of Windows Search, and might therefore not find what he / she is looking for, thus needing some third party help in this extremely simple task. Luckily my very limited capacity has been enough to learn Windows Search, and it has never failed me. I have always found what I have been looking for, and I'll bet if we could organize a search competition with identical machines I could search and find anything on Windows using its own search faster than another user with any of these third party tools.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 4wd View Post
Some are happy with w7 search (IMO a bizarre and clumsy interface (when it comes to setting criterias) + a tendency to return no or random results)
We obviously have a different opinion about clumsy interface. A few minutes ago I had to search one Windows computer for all images that have my name Kari or the name Larry included in filename, and which are created before June 2012.

Windows Search simple search string kind:image name:kari OR name:larry before:June 2012 and results (the "clumsy" search interface as you called it highlighted):

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And then File Locator (Agent Ransack). Alone setting the before date took longer than typing the whole search string in Windows search. And, of course, search found nothing for you can't just set two partial filenames as search criteria so easily:

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(To help comparing I highlighted the part you call clumsy in Windows Search.)

Kari


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20 Jan 2013   #14
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

I think if one spends more time learning how to use Windows Explorier Search and less time condemning it they will become a happier computer person.
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21 Jan 2013   #15
4wd

W8+8.1, W7 ult+hp, XP
 
 

Am happy for you, being satisfied is the whole point, as I am using both Agent Ransack and W7 search, each as needed and for their own and different purpose. As some of my work and income depends on a reliable search, am using the tools that fits best.

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Of course I understand not everyone is capable to learn and understand the simple instructions and usage of Windows Search, and might therefore not find what he / she is looking for, thus needing some third party help in this extremely simple task


Regarding the OP's avi problem, a practical test:


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21 Jan 2013   #16
Kari

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 4wd View Post
Regarding the OP's avi problem, a practical test:
Referring to the first sentence in my previous post, please see your edited screenshots below to learn correct usage of Windows Search:

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Kari


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21 Jan 2013   #17
4wd

W8+8.1, W7 ult+hp, XP
 
 

Am trying to help the OP by replicating some of the problems he\she may have been facing, and providing a solution, in this specific case Agent Ransack always finds the actual file type, w7 search never.

FYI, the 'kind = movie' was automatically inserted by windows when choosing 'movie' from the drop down list of available file types. Is windows search doing something wrong ?? impossible, of course lol. But you may not know about those drop down lists.

And btw, ext:avi tried as well, no match.


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21 Jan 2013   #18
Golden

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult. x64 Windows 8.1 x64
 
 

Thanks Kari! I never understood Windows search until I read your hand full of posts here. Now I have mastered it - its far easier than I realised
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21 Jan 2013   #19
Kari

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 4wd View Post
Am trying to help the OP by replicating some of the problems he\she may have been facing, and providing a solution, in this specific case Agent Ransack always finds the actual file type, w7 search never.

FYI, the 'kind = movie' was automatically inserted by windows when choosing 'movie' from the drop down list of available file types. Is windows search doing something wrong ?? impossible, of course lol. But you may not know about those drop down lists.

And btw, ext:avi tried as well, no match.
Wrong. Windows does not automatically put that kind of string on search field. Correct usage is either kind:movie or kind:=movie (also kind := movie works, important character is the colon :). If you select a search criteria from drop down menu, it automatically adds both colon and equal characters:

Name:  Search_5.png
Views: 2
Size:  6.5 KB

I am also only trying to show OP a simple solution to his issue. An added point in my posts, a point very important for me, is that as so often you do not really need third party solutions to solve simple issues like this.

There's a simple trick to check if your search criteria syntax is correct. It turns blue if correct, stays black if not.

Correct, criteria written in blue:

Name:  Search_6.png
Views: 28
Size:  2.3 KB

Wrong, criteria written in black:

Name:  Search_7.png
Views: 27
Size:  3.2 KB

Kari


EDIT:

Important notice, search filter kind:movie only finds "real" movie formats like ripped DVDs and so on. To search video files like AVI, WMV, MP4 and so on use filter kind:video


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21 Jan 2013   #20
4wd

W8+8.1, W7 ult+hp, XP
 
 

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Important notice, search filter kind:movie only finds "real" movie formats like ripped DVDs and so on. To search video files like AVI, WMV, MP4 and so on use filter kind:video
Good point. Tried kind:video, it found 14 of the 15 avi's on this pc. Not bad lol.

Whatever, an interesting discussion, and learned a few things both in Agent Ransack and W search. As for the original topic, let's hope the OP has succeeded (if the files are there) by either 1. Somehow mastered W search (and made it work properly for his purpose), 2. Giving Agent R. a try (and quite immediately finding the files).

Here's another example of why I treat W search with a dose of skepticism, the missing results (131 vs 146) may have some explanation, but good thing about Agent R it never needs any special explanation, setting or doubts, just digs up what's there.


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