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28 Jan 2013
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| | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 3,248 posts England |

Quote: Originally Posted by mjf I probably used the wrong terminology since you aren't changing the codecs, just the container. Still I don't think Handbrake allows you to do this. Others please correct me if I'm wrong. From what I have read I think your right
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| | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7600 12,173 posts cornwall UK |
just a thought danny, if it is a smart tv and you are connecting it to a network to see your movie folder.
then try this.
change the file extension from .mkv to .avi
see if it will play them now without having to change the container | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Hewlett packard/p6512uk OS Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7600 CPU IIx4 amd athelon 635 processor Motherboard FOXCONN 2AA9 Memory 2x2gb Graphics Card ati radeon HD 5450 Sound Card (1) Realtek High Definition Audio (2) AMD High Definition Monitor(s) Displays samsung lcd tv 32" Screen Resolution 1360x 768 Keyboard wireless hp Mouse wireless Hp,optical PSU ? Cooling air! Hard Drives (1) WDC WD10 01FAES-60Z2A0 SATA Disk Device (2) Maxtor OneTouch USB Device (3) ST310003 33AS USB Device (4) WD My Book 1111 USB Device Internet Speed 1.10mb/s Antivirus MSE Browser Firefox |
28 Jan 2013
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 13,818 posts Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |
I don't know encode from transcode either, sorry.
I had some .mkv files which my BluRay refused to play, ran them through Handbrake with mp4 as the output and they worked. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
28 Jan 2013
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| | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit 4,269 posts Southern Ohio |
Running it through any encoder such as Handbrake will recoding resulting in quality loss. Not to mention time consuming.
This is fine if you want a smaller file, but to simply change from MKV to MP4 you only need to demux/remux the audio video streams which takes just seconds.
I ahve a different way which works well:
You will need two free applications for this.
1) MP4 Box MP4Box 0.5.0 - VideoHelp.com Downloads
2) YAMB (You do NOT need the Installer version) Yamb » Yet Another MP4Box UI
Both are free. You need YAMB if you do not want to use mp4box as a cmdline. Plus YAMB just makes the whole thing simpler.
Down load both.
-Unzip YAMB to a location you want it.
-Install MP4BOX
Open YAMB, and go to Settings/ Advanced
Point it to the location of the MP4box exe and choose a location for temp.
Thats it.
Now you just Open YAMB, select create MP4 and add your MKV file. And in less than a minute your have the file in a MP4 container with 0 quality loss.
As far as the terminology, if I understand it all correcly:
ENCODE/RECODE - Taking a file and completely recoding it to a new format, or the same to reduce file size or change codec formats.
TRANSCODE - Decoding and streaming in alternate format
DEMUX extracting the audio & video streams from a container into thier raw formats. Such as (MPEG,H264 AC3,DTS,AAC etc)
REMUX or MUXING taking the raw video/audio streams and putting them into a container (such as MP4, MKV, AVI) to create a useable video file. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom (Self Build) OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU Intel Core i7 2700k Motherboard eVGA P67 SLI Memory 8GB Mushkin Redline Ridgebacks @1866 Graphics Card EVGA GTX570 SC Sound Card XiFi Titanium HD Monitor(s) Displays LG W2453V Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Saitek Cyborg PSU Seasonic x750 Case Corsair 600T SE White Cooling eVGA Superclocked CPU Cooler Hard Drives Intel 320 80GB -- Intel X25-V 40GB --WD Black 1TB x2 -- WD Blue 640GB Antivirus Kaspersky Browser IE Other Info LG BD/DVD |
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 13,818 posts Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |
I like your way Wishmaster, Handbrake does take about 45-60 minutes to do a 1.7GB 1080P movie and most of the time it ends up being 2GB or more. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
28 Jan 2013
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| | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 4,012 posts Australia |
Wishmaster,
the only problem I had using Yamb was that it didn't like DTS streams. Maybe I got something wrong?
Another possible way is to use Mkvextractgui to split the streams
then
using Megui to mux the streams
tools>muxer> mp4 muxer
It's even messier!
Danny,
are you sure your app gives you x264 video? Media Info will tell you. (I use the GUI/without installer version) | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 |
29 Jan 2013
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| | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit 4,269 posts Southern Ohio |
Yes, MeGUI makes many audio/video projects so much easier as theres so many helpful tools there built in. Many just dont like it becasue it takes a little bit to learn at first.
Which is why I suggested YAMB. Its pretty straight forward where as with MeGUI, as you know, youd need to mess with some raw files in between. Although its not hard, I realize some would rather not go the extra steps.
I didnt think about DTS. I havent used the YAMB program in a long time, I just remember it done very well for remuxing MP4s.
I use MeGUI for pretty much everything audio/video related anymore.
Ive always just used TsMuxer, also part of MeGUI, to Demux everything. Force of habit I suppose, but MKVextract does work just as well
Another advantage would be, lets say you want to take a video from MKV to MP4 so you can put it on your mobile phone.
But, your phone will not accept the DTS audio for playback.
You can Demux the streams, and then use Megui to recode the audio stream only to AAC. Then remux as a MP4 so its compatible. Still just a couple minute job.
Honestly, even if you do not use it to encode stuff, all the tools right there in one convenient place is very nice | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom (Self Build) OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU Intel Core i7 2700k Motherboard eVGA P67 SLI Memory 8GB Mushkin Redline Ridgebacks @1866 Graphics Card EVGA GTX570 SC Sound Card XiFi Titanium HD Monitor(s) Displays LG W2453V Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Saitek Cyborg PSU Seasonic x750 Case Corsair 600T SE White Cooling eVGA Superclocked CPU Cooler Hard Drives Intel 320 80GB -- Intel X25-V 40GB --WD Black 1TB x2 -- WD Blue 640GB Antivirus Kaspersky Browser IE Other Info LG BD/DVD |
29 Jan 2013
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| | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 4,012 posts Australia |
I'm flying by the seat of my pants here since I always use mkv and not mp4 (my excuse anyway).
The mp4muxer in MEGUI>Tools>mp4muxer doesn't accept DTS streams either! I don't even know if the mp4 container standard accepts DTS but Handbrake allows it.
Maybe you need to convert the DTS to AC3 which is a bit of a waste.
Wishmaster's the expert here. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 |
29 Jan 2013
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| | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 3,248 posts England |

Quote: Originally Posted by boohbah just a thought danny, if it is a smart tv and you are connecting it to a network to see your movie folder.
then try this.
change the file extension from .mkv to .avi
see if it will play them now without having to change the container Actually that works also booh only it wont play in windows media player without the correct codecs and also wont give me thumnails aswell. 
Quote: Originally Posted by Wishmaster Running it through any encoder such as Handbrake will recoding resulting in quality loss. Not to mention time consuming.
This is fine if you want a smaller file, but to simply change from MKV to MP4 you only need to demux/remux the audio video streams which takes just seconds.
I ahve a different way which works well:
You will need two free applications for this.
1) MP4 Box MP4Box 0.5.0 - VideoHelp.com Downloads
2) YAMB (You do NOT need the Installer version) Yamb » Yet Another MP4Box UI
Both are free. You need YAMB if you do not want to use mp4box as a cmdline. Plus YAMB just makes the whole thing simpler.
Down load both.
-Unzip YAMB to a location you want it.
-Install MP4BOX
Open YAMB, and go to Settings/ Advanced
Point it to the location of the MP4box exe and choose a location for temp.
Thats it.
Now you just Open YAMB, select create MP4 and add your MKV file. And in less than a minute your have the file in a MP4 container with 0 quality loss.
As far as the terminology, if I understand it all correcly:
ENCODE/RECODE - Taking a file and completely recoding it to a new format, or the same to reduce file size or change codec formats.
TRANSCODE - Decoding and streaming in alternate format
DEMUX extracting the audio & video streams from a container into thier raw formats. Such as (MPEG,H264 AC3,DTS,AAC etc)
REMUX or MUXING taking the raw video/audio streams and putting them into a container (such as MP4, MKV, AVI) to create a useable video file. Thanks Wishmaster might have a look at those too 
Quote: Originally Posted by mjf Wishmaster,
the only problem I had using Yamb was that it didn't like DTS streams. Maybe I got something wrong?
Another possible way is to use Mkvextractgui to split the streams
then
using Megui to mux the streams
tools>muxer> mp4 muxer
It's even messier!
Danny,
are you sure your app gives you x264 video? Media Info will tell you. (I use the GUI/without installer version) Not sure mjf. If Im honest I'm not sure what the x264 means. I had a look at both the mkv and the mp4 files and didn't see any mention of x264 in either using Media Info. Where would it be located.
Danny | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number acer aspire 5935g OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 CPU intel(R)core(TM)2 duo CPU T6600 @ 2.20GHz Motherboard intel gm45/gm47 revision 07 Memory 3 gb ddr3 Graphics Card ati radeon hd4570/512mb Monitor(s) Displays lop156wh2-tle1 15.3 flat Screen Resolution 1366x768 Mouse Optical Hard Drives OCZ-Agility3 60gig ssd
320gig external hdd
500gig external hdd Internet Speed 30Mbps Down/30Mbps Up |
29 Jan 2013
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| | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7600 12,173 posts cornwall UK |
you need to install icaros to show thumbs for mkv and avi, |MG| Icaros 2.1.5 Download
i never use wmp or wmc anymore
i use splash player pro, best thing since sliced bread,imo Splash PRO - The Next Generation Player
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