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Windows 7: Photos have a red cast

07 Apr 2013   #51

Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 / WinXP Pro x86 on (2)

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by shessel View Post
This last week .... located/organized all downloads and programs required for complete re installation after new partition, "Ducks-in-A'row"; downloaded Partition Wizard, downloaded Macrium Standard, and purchased and installed LaCie 2TB storage unit.
You're off to a flying start.

This week I hope to figure-out how to use the Partition Wizard and Macrium then attempt to complete the "nuclear option". Your work outline has been very helpful and it will be followed as I continue the path to enlightenment. Steve
Remembering that the goal here is to conquer the magenta color shift problem, this is really just a path to that end with (in my opinion) a 100% chance of success. I'm convinced there's just something corrupted in your current system that cannot be undone using rational reasonable methods. As such, a clean cold reinstall of Windows is really the only remaining method you can go with, painful and time consuming as it might be when you have lots of 3rd-party software products which must be reinstalled.

However smart use of backup software like Macrium Standard (which can take BOTH (a) "system image" backups, as well as (b) folder/file backups) to preserve your current \Users folder on your new external USB drive as well as any other data folders/files you have which are not in \Users, as well as your \ProgramData folder as well as your \Program Files and \Program Files (x86), all of this before you wipe your C-partition to begin the OS reinstall process... well you can now copy back selectively from the external USB drive back to C before you reinstall install software which (if you're lucky) could then detect the pre-existence of a previously installed setup so that you won't have to go through all the re-customization from scratch. This is if you're lucky, else you'll just have to recustomize manually.

But for sure, you will NOT LOSE ANY DATA. And you will learn how to use Macrium, setting up a proper schedule for regular backups to the USB drive. My recommendation would be to build a schedule consisting of:

(1) weekly "system image" backups of the C-drive, with space management (i.e. retention policy) of say a maximum of 6 generations (scheduled to run say early every Sunday morning).

(2) monthly FULL backups (scheduled to run on the 1st of each month, at a different time than your weekly "system image" backup) of all folders/files on the C-drive except for the \Windows folder which (in my opinion) you don't need to backup because the "system image" backup will be used for a RESTORE is you really did have corruption to Windows that required the extreme recovery method of restoring a working "system image". You can retain 5 generations, which is really really conservative and will give you the ability to recover any folder/file that existed on your system from any day in the past 5 months. Obviously you can specify more or less than 5 depending on your paranoia about how valuable your data is, and how important it is for you to have recovery capability for lost/corrupted files going back however far you want.

(3) daily INCREMENTAL backups of all folders/files on the C-drive except for the \Windows folder. Macrium relates each of these daily INCREMENTAL backups to the preceding FULL backup and considers them a "set" which are inseparable to provide proper recovery capability. The space management will purge the FULL + related INCREMENTAL backups together as a "set", once you pass the max generations you've specified.

Feel free to ask questions here on this thread, although you might find answers already present in another sub-forum (e.g. the backup software forum, etc.).

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15 Apr 2013   #52

win 7 home premium 64 bit

Hi Shessel, how are you getting on?
That red cast maybe due to a faulty/corrupt monitor profile. Ive not calibrated my monitor for ages, and then i did a new build the other week, so upon your problem i calibrated and guess what the profile had a red cast to everything. Thats using a cheap end spyder 3(i think).
Now you used a color munki you know they can be faulty or produce a corrupt profile.
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16 Apr 2013   #53

windows 7 ultimate 32 bit

King ............ very interesting. My problems occurred right after I down-loader the X-rite Passport white balance card and then 2 weeks later the Colormunki calibrator. I also wondered if either of these applications might have been the culprits. So, the pregnant question is, how are you dealing with the red cast issue?
I had a overwhelming work week and was not able to pursue my problem too much, but I did work throught the Partition Wizard; with lots of (new) questions now. I hope to tackle the Wizard this week and move on to the partition reload ... OMG. I infer from what you say that it can be dangerous to calibrate (mess with color profiles) regardless of the the equipment used(?) The help from this site is what has kept me going, otherwise I'da just put my foot through the monitor by now. Steve
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16 Apr 2013   #54

win 7 home premium 64 bit

What i did i just deleted the profile. Im now using a non-calibrated monitor, but i am not doing any special prints, so not a problem. A road i would go down is to delete all your icc profiles, uninstall the color munki software and then reinstall and follow the calibration wizard. When you have uninstalled,use your monitor especially on this forum and take a mental picture, because soon as i calibrated the red cast was so apparent. The other thing is if you look in homepage of the forum you see like chequered pattern between the blues for the different sub forums etc, they wasnt apparent when using my uncalibrated monitor. What i have done for now is my monitor is a viewsonic and the software that came with allows to preset kelvin(6500k) amongst others and i have just used a visual settings(my own eyes) and set a profile that way. Im looking at a new calibrator but money isnt there for it.
Is there anywhere near you that rents out the I1 pro or similar, or from the internet. Or can you calibrate some one else monitor with the color munki to rule out a fault with the color munki?
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16 Apr 2013   #55

windows 7 ultimate 32 bit

OK, I did uninstall the x-rite & Colormunki with no results. Could you elaborate on how to uninstall and reinstall ICC Profiles, (do I need new ICC profiles; from where)I don't know where they are in the system. I have a gut feeling that corrupted ICC profiles are the root of this problemo.
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16 Apr 2013   #56

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1

I described how to do this in my post above
Photos have a red cast
You can simply select sRGB IEC61966-2.1 icm profile from the add list and set it as default. (don't worry about icm vs icc)
Things should look ok but it hasn't seriously calibrated your monitor. But if it works I would say your Color Munki is a dud.

I recently bought a Spyder 4 and returned it because it always gave a green cast!
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16 Apr 2013   #57

Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 / WinXP Pro x86 on (2)

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by shessel View Post
I have a gut feeling that corrupted ICC profiles are the root of this problemo.
I'm still of the opinion that this calibration and ICC profile stuff is at the heart of your problem, and it probably is just buried deeply into your current Windows environment and is evading elimination.

If you will simply reinstall Windows from scratch as I suggested a while back, I'm sure your magenta problem will no longer be present (it simply is NOT present in 99.9999% of the Photoshop and Windows environments). And from that point on, it's up to you if you want to try that whole color calibration adventure again...although at least you'll have learned it was what caused the magenta problem in the first place.

At least that's my opinion, and that's my prediction.
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17 Apr 2013   #58

windows 7 ultimate 32 bit

Yes, I was hoping King had a short-cut ... before I proceed. I'm still working on your original suggestions, and very close to completing a total reinstall, just looking for a few "clear days" to schedule this Kamikaze mission.
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17 Apr 2013   #59

win 7 home premium 64 bit

Shessel, if you go to control panel, color management and look around at the settings there you will get afeel of the color management layout, may understand a little more and you may see the profiles you have created.
Its funny ive just been on a different forum and a guy using a mac with an xrite I1 display(quite old apparently) is complaining of a magenta cast to his profile. This guy probably understands more than me and you on color management so you are not alone. Sorry its rushed the post but off to work now.
Is it xrite or datacolor the profiler, have a look at their support pages and forums. Could even be a video card update as ive never had problem before.
Have you removed your video card and used the default mobo vga and calibrate that?
Im gonna have a look at that at the weekend.
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