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Windows 7: Does Nero always take forever to burn?

29 Aug 2014   #1
SamT97

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 
Does Nero always take forever to burn?

Hi

I recently downloaded Nero 2014 in order to burn some movies I had on my pc onto some DVD's (Dual Layered DVD's to be exact). At first I tried to put a 2gb HD movie (1980x800) onto the DVD using AVCHD, but once I saw the 10 hour estimated time to complete, I aborted straight away cos there is no way I'm having my computer on for so long burning a DVD, its just not practical.

I then tried to burn a 700mb (1280x536) HD movie onto the same disc using the normal DVD setting (not AVCHD). I put quality on automatic, and it put everything to the highest because I had 8gb on the DVD. It still took an hour and a half to do the entire process of burning and transcoding or encoding and whatever else it does.

Is this normal? I have heard about people saying they only take like 20 minutes to burn movies onto their DVD's which kinda alarmed me, as I have a fairly powerful rig and I should be able to burn at higher speeds.

Here are my computer specs -
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
AMD FX-4100 (Overclocked at 4 GHz)
2x4GB Corsair Memory Ram
AMD Radeon HD6900
GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD5
Samsung Superwritemaster SH-222AB (I find this drive to actually be very fast at reading DVD's)

DMA is enabled, disk is defragged every week, writing speed is set to max (16x), virtual memory is already optimized, I'm just curious to know if its normal for this process to take so long.

Also if someone could explain if burning a HD movie onto a DVD using AVCHD on medium quality settings (it gets full at medium) will give better quality than burning it using regular DVD at excellent quality, I would appreciate it

Thanks


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01 Sep 2014   #2
Gornot

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

This is perfectly normal. Video encoding takes a lot of time regardless of the file format and codec used; if you tried any other similar piece of software that automatically encodes the video and then burns it to a disc, you'd find similar results.

I don't understand why you'd want to encode those videos in the first place? Encoding compresses the video further and you'd just loose quality or, if your settings are right, re-encode the video to look exactly the same while taking a lot more storage space.

If you want to just backup those movies onto a DVD for future playback on a PC, you don't need to re-encode it. But for DVD players, it's necessary to re-encode the video into the proper DVD format, as some DVD players don't have the ability to read any other file formats (except perhaps DivX and XviD)...

Try to use Nero Express or Burning ROM instead and just choose Burn Data DVD, add the video files and voila. And make sure you DON'T set the writing speed to 16x as most of the time those DVDs will end up being unreadable. Slower burning speed ensures that the process is done flawlessly and without errors. 2x or 4x is sufficient.
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01 Sep 2014   #3
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Also check whether it does a verify phase after the burning. That may double the time needed.
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02 Sep 2014   #4
SamT97

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Gornot View Post
This is perfectly normal. Video encoding takes a lot of time regardless of the file format and codec used; if you tried any other similar piece of software that automatically encodes the video and then burns it to a disc, you'd find similar results.

I don't understand why you'd want to encode those videos in the first place? Encoding compresses the video further and you'd just loose quality or, if your settings are right, re-encode the video to look exactly the same while taking a lot more storage space.

If you want to just backup those movies onto a DVD for future playback on a PC, you don't need to re-encode it. But for DVD players, it's necessary to re-encode the video into the proper DVD format, as some DVD players don't have the ability to read any other file formats (except perhaps DivX and XviD)...

Try to use Nero Express or Burning ROM instead and just choose Burn Data DVD, add the video files and voila. And make sure you DON'T set the writing speed to 16x as most of the time those DVDs will end up being unreadable. Slower burning speed ensures that the process is done flawlessly and without errors. 2x or 4x is sufficient.
Yh I need to have them playable on regular DVD players and even a PS3 and PS4 which is why I let Nero re-encode them. But if you say its perfectly fine, then I'm more than happy with it. I was only worried because of reading other people say on other forums that they burn whole movies onto DVDs in like 10 minutes which was kinda annoying me lol, but if its normal then I don't have a problem with it.

Thanks for the reply, out of 4 different forums I posted on, you were the only one who actually gave me a helpful answer lol. Seems like video encoding and burning isn't one of the most popular subjects in computing

Oh and whs, it doesn't do a verify after the burn, it just finishes up regularly. Thanks for the reply too
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02 Sep 2014   #5
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi there.

If you want to MAKE a DVD from an MKV or MP4 or AVI file why not simply use DEVEDE (It's FREE) to create the DVD - you can either make an ISO or simply the DVD file structure -- then burn with something like imagburn (Free) or ashampoo burning studio -- much better than overbloated Nero IMO.

http://www.devede.org/

(Hasn't been maintained for Windows for a while but still works fine -- Linux version OK too).

This program also allows easy addition of SUBTITLES on to the burned DVD too.

The DVD's created work fine on regular DVD players -- I use this a lot to create DVD's with Icelandic Subtitles for my folks so they can watch often unavailable US TV series etc. !!!

The DVD's created have the DVD-Video format


Cheers
jimbo
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03 Sep 2014   #6
Gornot

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SamT97 View Post
Yh I need to have them playable on regular DVD players and even a PS3 and PS4 which is why I let Nero re-encode them. But if you say its perfectly fine, then I'm more than happy with it. I was only worried because of reading other people say on other forums that they burn whole movies onto DVDs in like 10 minutes which was kinda annoying me lol, but if its normal then I don't have a problem with it.

Thanks for the reply, out of 4 different forums I posted on, you were the only one who actually gave me a helpful answer lol. Seems like video encoding and burning isn't one of the most popular subjects in computing
I think you were just posting in the wrong forums. Audio and video encoding are big technologies and there are a lot of places to find information. But you're welcome anyway

The thing is, you were worried about the duration of the process, but in fact, the 10-20 minute part is just burning - video encoding takes a lot more time, and it depends on your CPU and, depending on the technology available to the encoder, GPU too (like nVidia CUDA).

I agree with jimbo that Nero is overbloated but it shouldn't affect the actual encoding part; it's the UI and components that are somewhat annoying. If you're not too familiar with all the features Nero offers, definitely check out jimbo's recommendations.
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03 Sep 2014   #7
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi there

Burning of Physical DVD's these days is actually a "Dying art" since you can get often so much better quality even from a 2GB Blu Ray 1080p Rip into mkv or mp4 and play it direct on to a decent TV in full 1080p from a laptop.

However I've had to burn physical DVD's for people -- one problem with Nero is that it's not very good at creating DVD structures or multiple titles - for example if you want 6 episodes of a series then it's a real dog to use Nero.

I like the DEVEDE product as it's quick and easy to use - and what's actually nice is say you are creating a DVD with 6 episodes on to a standard 4.7GB single sided DVD - you just click the Adjust Disk usage which automatically re-sizes the rip size to fit on to the DVD. You can also add multiple SUBTITLES too which Nero can't.

ConvertXtoDVD is another one that works reasonably well but it's paid software - DEVEDE is actually FREE.

(Note there is confusion here -- I'm talking about CREATING physical DVD's - not ripping them to mkv / mp4 for playing say on a mobile phone).

I'd always do the verify phase - burns often work fine but verify will sometimes throw up errors -- especially if you create your DVD's on RW media. I've a load of RW discs left so I tend to use those while I still have them - if I get a verify error - I just clean the disc, re-erase and burn again - it's OK usually. !!

I like Ashampoo studio for burning the DVD - I get DEVEDE to create the DVD structure (the AUDIO_TS and the VIDEO_TS directories) and burn with ashampoo using the ==>create DVD from folder and point to the VIDEO_TS folder created by DEVEDE. (You don't need the AUDIO_TS folder as it's empty but needs to be present as it's part of the DVD structure which ASHAMPOO handles just fine.)

Converting a High quality 2GB Blu Ray rip of say a 1hr 45 min movie to the DVD structures required for burning to a physical disc takes on a typical LAPTOP i5 processor about 1hr 20 mins -- if you've got faster hardware then it can take less or if your hardware is older then it will take longer -- but I really can't believe that even with an i7 top of the line processor you could create a DVD structure from the same source (2GB Blu Ray Rip MKV film) in 10 mins !!!!!

Cheers
jimbo
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28 Apr 2015   #8
Sylveon Fetish

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1
 
 

I have a similar problem. I am burning a DVD rom of software on it around 4.0GB total, it is taking well over two hours to burn whilst the same ISO took 15 minutes at the most and an older computer I used to have. I am using Nero 2015
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