| Windows 7: Unidentified Network issue |
31 Jul 2010
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#1 | | Windows 7 Professional / Windows 7 Professional |
Unidentified Network issue Hi,
I'll post my network setup, as it may make more sense when I explain the issue
Router: D-Link 270B
Desktop connected to the router by a Homeplug (ethernet) for the internet, using the following settings:
IP: 192.168.1.12
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1
Preferred DNS Server: 192.168.1.1
Desktop wireless card (Belkin Wireless N1 Card) for connecting to my Apple TV for syncing:
IP: 192.168.1.20
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.1.19
Preferred DNS Server: 192.168.1.19
Apple TV Media Centre
IP: 192.168.1.19
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1
Preferred DNS Server: 192.168.1.1
This may sound like a strange setup, but iTunes doesn't detect my Apple TV, if I use my Homeplug for it, but if I use the Wireless Network Card for it, it is fine.
The issue I have is, sometimes this setup works fine, but sometimes I can turn the Desktop on and have "Unidentified Network" and a Park Bench displayed for the Homeplug connection and for the Wireless Connection, it will say "Dlink, No Network Access" (or something similar, I cannot remember the exact wording). To get the Homeplug connection to connect to the network again, I have to disable the wireless card and then turn off the homeplug and turn it back on and reconfigure the IP.
Is there anything I could of possibly set wrong? I am hoping to keep the internet connection and the apple TV syncing separate, as my downloads from iTunes on the wireless connection are too slow but on the Homeplugs I get full speed from my connection. Also having the Wireless connection syncing the Apple TV only, seems to speed up transfers.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
Ross | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom / Laptop - Dell Studio 1558 OS Windows 7 Professional / Windows 7 Professional CPU Intel Core i7-2600K 3.40GHz / Intel Core i7 720QM Motherboard Asus P67 Sabertooth **B3 Revision** Memory 16GB Kingston HyperX XMP 1600MHz / 8GB Samsung DDR3 1333mhz Graphics Card MSI ATI Radeon HD6870 1GB Twin Frozr III / Ati Radeon HD5450 Sound Card Onboard 5.1 Monitor(s) Displays Dell 24" FULL HD LED / Full HD WLED 15.4" Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 / 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Microsoft Digital Media Pro / Backlit Mouse Logitech MX Revolution / Logitech VX Revolution PSU Corsair TX 750W Case Fractal Design Define XL Full Tower Case - Black Pearl Cooling 2 x Fractal 120mm and 2 x Fractal 80mm Fans Hard Drives Crucial C300 + 4 x Samsung F3 1TB + 2 x External WD 1TB 7200RPM / OCZ Vertex 2e 240gb + External WD 500GB 7200RPM Internet Speed Sky Unlimited 20mb Other Info Samsung Blu-Ray Player and Billion 7800N Router |
31 Jul 2010
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#2 | | Win 8 Release candidate 8400 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Ross Hi,
I'll post my network setup, as it may make more sense when I explain the issue
Router: D-Link 270B
Desktop connected to the router by a Homeplug (ethernet) for the internet, using the following settings:
IP: 192.168.1.12
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1
Preferred DNS Server: 192.168.1.1
Desktop wireless card (Belkin Wireless N1 Card) for connecting to my Apple TV for syncing:
IP: 192.168.1.20
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.1.19
Preferred DNS Server: 192.168.1.19
Apple TV Media Centre
IP: 192.168.1.19
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1
Preferred DNS Server: 192.168.1.1
This may sound like a strange setup, but iTunes doesn't detect my Apple TV, if I use my Homeplug for it, but if I use the Wireless Network Card for it, it is fine.
The issue I have is, sometimes this setup works fine, but sometimes I can turn the Desktop on and have "Unidentified Network" and a Park Bench displayed for the Homeplug connection and for the Wireless Connection, it will say "Dlink, No Network Access" (or something similar, I cannot remember the exact wording). To get the Homeplug connection to connect to the network again, I have to disable the wireless card and then turn off the homeplug and turn it back on and reconfigure the IP.
Is there anything I could of possibly set wrong? I am hoping to keep the internet connection and the apple TV syncing separate, as my downloads from iTunes on the wireless connection are too slow but on the Homeplugs I get full speed from my connection. Also having the Wireless connection syncing the Apple TV only, seems to speed up transfers.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
Ross
Ros Hi and welcome
I have a bunch of questions.
Are you using homegroup, or workgroup for networking?
Are you manually assigning IP?
Can you type cmd in search>then>ipconfig /all and make a screenshot of the output?
Ken | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavillion dv-7 1005 Tx OS Win 8 Release candidate 8400 CPU 2@2.4 Memory 4 gigs Graphics Card Nvidia 9600M Sound Card HD built-in Monitor(s) Displays 17" Wxga Screen Resolution 1440x900 Cooling none Internet Speed 45Mb down 5Mb up |
31 Jul 2010
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#3 | | Windows 7 Professional / Windows 7 Professional |
Hi Ken,
Thanks for the reply.
Currently everything is running fine, but when I turn the PC off later and turn it back on, it will all go wrong again. I have attached the screenprint as per your request. The IP's are manually configured.
I have just checked in "Networking and Sharing Centre" and the Homeplug (ethernet) connection is setup as a "Work Network" and the Wireless is setup as a "Home Network" (homegroup: joined). I have attached a screenprint of this also (they were both Home Network before I screenshot the "Networking and Sharing Centre", just changed the internet to work to see if it made any difference).
Thanks,
Ross
Last edited by Ross; 31 Jul 2010 at 10:56 AM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom / Laptop - Dell Studio 1558 OS Windows 7 Professional / Windows 7 Professional CPU Intel Core i7-2600K 3.40GHz / Intel Core i7 720QM Motherboard Asus P67 Sabertooth **B3 Revision** Memory 16GB Kingston HyperX XMP 1600MHz / 8GB Samsung DDR3 1333mhz Graphics Card MSI ATI Radeon HD6870 1GB Twin Frozr III / Ati Radeon HD5450 Sound Card Onboard 5.1 Monitor(s) Displays Dell 24" FULL HD LED / Full HD WLED 15.4" Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 / 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Microsoft Digital Media Pro / Backlit Mouse Logitech MX Revolution / Logitech VX Revolution PSU Corsair TX 750W Case Fractal Design Define XL Full Tower Case - Black Pearl Cooling 2 x Fractal 120mm and 2 x Fractal 80mm Fans Hard Drives Crucial C300 + 4 x Samsung F3 1TB + 2 x External WD 1TB 7200RPM / OCZ Vertex 2e 240gb + External WD 500GB 7200RPM Internet Speed Sky Unlimited 20mb Other Info Samsung Blu-Ray Player and Billion 7800N Router |
31 Jul 2010
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8 Pro, San Diego |
From my point of view the wireless connections default gateway and the DNS aren't showing up as they should, when you manually inputted the gateway and DNS it wasn't done correctly I'm guessing. The IPv4 default gateway and DNS of the wireless connection needs to be 192.168.1.1 .
It also looks like you may have both a wireless connection and also a wired connection on the same machine, this configuration confuses Windows 7 so you should be using one or the other.
You might try going into the IPv4 properties of the wireless connection and manually inputting the default gateway and DNS of 192.168.1.1, you can still probably use the same IP of 192.168.1.20 . Although simply resetting the router using DHCP would probably fix this problem just as easily. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built OS Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8 Pro, CPU Q9650-4.275GHz, E8600 4.5GHz, E6750-3.8GHz Motherboard Evga 780i FTW Memory G.Skill PC2 9600 1200Mhz 5 5 5 15 2T Graphics Card GTX480 Sound Card Asus Xonar D2 Monitor(s) Displays HannsG Screen Resolution 1680X1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Mouse Logitech G9 PSU ThermalTake Toughpower 1000Watt modular Case ThermalTake XaserV Cooling Xigmatek S1283 Hard Drives GSkill Phoenix Pro 120GB SSD Internet Speed T1 |
31 Jul 2010
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#5 | | Windows 7 Professional / Windows 7 Professional |
Hi,
Thanks for the reply.
Yes both connections are on the one PC. I am having to use 192.168.1.19 on my wireless adapter for the gateway and the DNS because when I use my homeplugs, iTunes can't see my Apple TV. I don't want the wireless to be used for the net though (as it is unreliable for the internet). The only way I could see it not connecting to the net was by using 192.168.1.19. When they decide to work together, they work perfectly but if I switch off the PC and turn it back on, neither work | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom / Laptop - Dell Studio 1558 OS Windows 7 Professional / Windows 7 Professional CPU Intel Core i7-2600K 3.40GHz / Intel Core i7 720QM Motherboard Asus P67 Sabertooth **B3 Revision** Memory 16GB Kingston HyperX XMP 1600MHz / 8GB Samsung DDR3 1333mhz Graphics Card MSI ATI Radeon HD6870 1GB Twin Frozr III / Ati Radeon HD5450 Sound Card Onboard 5.1 Monitor(s) Displays Dell 24" FULL HD LED / Full HD WLED 15.4" Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 / 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Microsoft Digital Media Pro / Backlit Mouse Logitech MX Revolution / Logitech VX Revolution PSU Corsair TX 750W Case Fractal Design Define XL Full Tower Case - Black Pearl Cooling 2 x Fractal 120mm and 2 x Fractal 80mm Fans Hard Drives Crucial C300 + 4 x Samsung F3 1TB + 2 x External WD 1TB 7200RPM / OCZ Vertex 2e 240gb + External WD 500GB 7200RPM Internet Speed Sky Unlimited 20mb Other Info Samsung Blu-Ray Player and Billion 7800N Router |
31 Jul 2010
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8 Pro, San Diego |
You can try doing that but it's not a normal way of doing things.
The reason it's not working correctly is because your not using the correct default gateway and DNS. Not to mention that Windows 7 doesn't like having two networks. You should be using one or the other with the same gateway and DNS if you want it to work right.
I don't mess with anything apple so I can't help you with the itunes problem, not sure what is up with that.
Your network won't work right like you have it though unfortunately. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built OS Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8 Pro, CPU Q9650-4.275GHz, E8600 4.5GHz, E6750-3.8GHz Motherboard Evga 780i FTW Memory G.Skill PC2 9600 1200Mhz 5 5 5 15 2T Graphics Card GTX480 Sound Card Asus Xonar D2 Monitor(s) Displays HannsG Screen Resolution 1680X1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Mouse Logitech G9 PSU ThermalTake Toughpower 1000Watt modular Case ThermalTake XaserV Cooling Xigmatek S1283 Hard Drives GSkill Phoenix Pro 120GB SSD Internet Speed T1 |
31 Jul 2010
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 Newport, South Wales, UK |
I would set the system up as described above and then use the the iTunes software and/or the Apple TV to set up the required connections.
If the Apple TV is on the same network and connected by Ethernet then you should get the best possible throughput.
If you only have a wireless connection on the apple TV you can run a wireless connection in parallel with the power-line Ethernet, but you would probably be best running a completely different subnet
I am another one without the specific Apple knowledge to provide explicit instructions, but there should be controls within the software/hardware to link iTunes and the apple TV | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Me + a little help from Acer) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6 GHz Motherboard Aspire M3400 Memory 4Gb PC10600 DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 315 512MB Sound Card OnBoard - Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Philips 32" HDTV, (HDMI) + 26" TV (VGA) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1360 x 768 @60Hz Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) Mouse Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) PSU Stock (400W) Case Acer M3400 Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS SATA II
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31 Jul 2010
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#8 | | Windows 7 Professional / Windows 7 Professional |
Thanks for the help  .
I may just get rid of the Apple TV and get a small Windows 7 box, as it is more hassle than it's worth (deleting purchases, then syncing with my PC and deleting them from there and many other issues). | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom / Laptop - Dell Studio 1558 OS Windows 7 Professional / Windows 7 Professional CPU Intel Core i7-2600K 3.40GHz / Intel Core i7 720QM Motherboard Asus P67 Sabertooth **B3 Revision** Memory 16GB Kingston HyperX XMP 1600MHz / 8GB Samsung DDR3 1333mhz Graphics Card MSI ATI Radeon HD6870 1GB Twin Frozr III / Ati Radeon HD5450 Sound Card Onboard 5.1 Monitor(s) Displays Dell 24" FULL HD LED / Full HD WLED 15.4" Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 / 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Microsoft Digital Media Pro / Backlit Mouse Logitech MX Revolution / Logitech VX Revolution PSU Corsair TX 750W Case Fractal Design Define XL Full Tower Case - Black Pearl Cooling 2 x Fractal 120mm and 2 x Fractal 80mm Fans Hard Drives Crucial C300 + 4 x Samsung F3 1TB + 2 x External WD 1TB 7200RPM / OCZ Vertex 2e 240gb + External WD 500GB 7200RPM Internet Speed Sky Unlimited 20mb Other Info Samsung Blu-Ray Player and Billion 7800N Router |
01 Aug 2010
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#9 | | Windows 7 Professional / Windows 7 Professional |
I think the issue with my 2 network cards is now fixed. I set them both up as normal (using the gateway and DNS as 192.168.1.1) but it kept using the Wireless connection for the internet (which meant slow download speeds from iTunes). I changed the priority of the network cards, so that my homeplugs (ethernet) connection took priority over my Wireless connection and it all now works perfectly
Thanks for all your help | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom / Laptop - Dell Studio 1558 OS Windows 7 Professional / Windows 7 Professional CPU Intel Core i7-2600K 3.40GHz / Intel Core i7 720QM Motherboard Asus P67 Sabertooth **B3 Revision** Memory 16GB Kingston HyperX XMP 1600MHz / 8GB Samsung DDR3 1333mhz Graphics Card MSI ATI Radeon HD6870 1GB Twin Frozr III / Ati Radeon HD5450 Sound Card Onboard 5.1 Monitor(s) Displays Dell 24" FULL HD LED / Full HD WLED 15.4" Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 / 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Microsoft Digital Media Pro / Backlit Mouse Logitech MX Revolution / Logitech VX Revolution PSU Corsair TX 750W Case Fractal Design Define XL Full Tower Case - Black Pearl Cooling 2 x Fractal 120mm and 2 x Fractal 80mm Fans Hard Drives Crucial C300 + 4 x Samsung F3 1TB + 2 x External WD 1TB 7200RPM / OCZ Vertex 2e 240gb + External WD 500GB 7200RPM Internet Speed Sky Unlimited 20mb Other Info Samsung Blu-Ray Player and Billion 7800N Router |
01 Aug 2010
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8 Pro, San Diego |
Glad to hear it Ross, I can't really see what you are doing from here but getting the DNS and gateway correct was a good call on your part. Thanks for reporting back in. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built OS Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8 Pro, CPU Q9650-4.275GHz, E8600 4.5GHz, E6750-3.8GHz Motherboard Evga 780i FTW Memory G.Skill PC2 9600 1200Mhz 5 5 5 15 2T Graphics Card GTX480 Sound Card Asus Xonar D2 Monitor(s) Displays HannsG Screen Resolution 1680X1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Mouse Logitech G9 PSU ThermalTake Toughpower 1000Watt modular Case ThermalTake XaserV Cooling Xigmatek S1283 Hard Drives GSkill Phoenix Pro 120GB SSD Internet Speed T1 Unidentified Network issue problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:41 AM. | |