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Windows 7: Win7 & WinXP Hell

25 Sep 2010   #1
Matthew Edmund

WinXP Home, Win7 Home
 
 
Win7 & WinXP Sharing Hell (SOLVED)

Hello,

Well it seems like I'm in my own little Personal Network Hell.

Up until a few days ago we had a handful of custom made desktops running Windows XP Home on a small home network (all cabled, though we do have wifi capability).

A few days ago I got my first laptop and my first computer with Windows 7. Everything was going great until I tried to look at the network to start transferring my files from my Windows XP machine.

The XP Machine could not see the Win7 machine and vice versa. I started basic troubleshooting. Realized they had different work groups and changed the Win7 to MSHOME like the rest of our network. After some more fiddling the XP machine could now at least see the Win7 machine on the network but was unable to access it.

Literally, 10 hours later and numerous tweaking of settings, literally hundreds of pages on this site, microsoft, and other support forums and all I've managed to do is finally get the Win7 to at the very least SEE the WinXP machine.

I've tried just about everything I could find on Google. I have added and modified registry entries, messed with protocols for both computers, services, permission settings, just about every combination of network options available via the Network & Sharing panel of Win7 to no avail.

I even downloaded and installed Network Magic to see if it could resolve the problem with that...nothing.

Here is our system info:


Computer 1
  • Windows 7 Home Premium
  • HP Pavilion dv6820ee Entertainment Notebook PC
  • AMD Phenom II N930 Quad-Core Processor
  • Network Connection: Wireless LAN - Broadcom 4313 802.11b/g/n
Computer 2
  • Windows XP Home Edition
  • Custom Built
  • AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+
  • Network Connection: Corded - NVidia nForce 10/100/1000 MBPS Ethernet
Router
Netgear WPN824v3
RangeMax Wireless Router

Also, I must add, rather than the standard "192.168.1.1" as the router's IP address (and thus the IP scheme for our entire network) the router's IP on the local network is "10.0.0.1". I wasn't sure if that was significant but figured any information may help.


Summary:
I've read through practically every support forum I could find over the last 7+ hours and tried numerous things to get the computers sharing. We have shared between XP computers for years without any problem. The Win7 can use the internet, can now at least see one XP machine, but that is it. It can see the other Win7 laptop we bought along with it (the other laptop is identical specs and identical problem).

I have already read literally hundreds of posts and KB info from Microsoft to no avail. I'm at a total loss here.


EDIT:


I can ping the router from both machines just fine, but no response when they ping each other.

Both only have Windows Firewall installed and I have tried disabling it with no change.


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08 Oct 2010   #2
David1952

7 Home Premium 32bit
 
 

Did you solve this? If so how?
I have exaclty the same problem.
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08 Oct 2010   #3
Matthew Edmund

WinXP Home, Win7 Home
 
 

Hello, sorry. I thought I had posted my solution but apparently in the excitement (or relief) of getting it to work forgot to hit send.

The solution seemed to be downloading new firmware from Netgear. The automatic updater on the router was not finding anything new and by sheer accident I had clicked on the documentation link from the router's admin panel.

I found that the firmware on my current router was significantly older than the newest firmware. I installed the new firmware which also required a reboot of the router.

Admittedly, I'm unsure exactly what solved the problem. Whether it was rebooting the router (turning it off completely, letting it sit, starting it back up), or installing the new firmware.

I think it was a combination of both. A few nights later the same problem randomly occurred (in fact I was in the middle of prepping the Win. EZ Share program to transfer) when all of a sudden the XP computers disappeared and vice versa. I restarted the router and haven't had a problem since.

I have my Win7 computer set to Home network and left the homegroup. I changed the advanced sharing settings to to use username and passwords for accounts.

Its working fine now. I hope that helps.
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08 Oct 2010   #4
David1952

7 Home Premium 32bit
 
 

I'll give that a try but I also have an apple mac on the network and it can ping both the win7 and xp machines through the same router. Bloody microsoft.
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