| Windows 7: Win7 and Linux machine won't talk to each other |
09 Dec 2010
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Win7 and Linux machine won't talk to each other Hi,
I'm trying to do a restore on a XPh machine on the LAN, using a Paragon Backup linux boot disk. In Paragon's Network Configurator, by drilling down I can see the other XPh machine on the LAN, but though the Win 7 machine is seen, no folders are revealed.
On the Windows 7 machine I have three locations that are shared - one on the system disk and two on a USB disk. The USB disk holds the backup image I want to use. I have it set to Shared, for Everyone, and Everyone has read/write permissions at the least (under Share it only says Read/Write; under Permissions I opened it up to Full Control temporarily).
It seems the bottleneck here is on the Windows 7 side. Can anyone see cause of the problem?
Thanks,
p. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number dell precision t3400 tower OS Win7 Ult. 32bit CPU Pentium 2x2.6 Memory 4G ddr2 Graphics Card nVidia Hard Drives 1TB, 80GB sata Internet Speed 12/2 |
09 Dec 2010
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8 Pro, San Diego |
To share out an entire drive with Windows 7 you need to take an extra step beyond the standard sharing permissions.
You need to go into the Security tab of the drive and allow "Everyone" access by adding Everyone to the access list like in the picture below. Be sure and hit the apply and ok buttons once you change the settings for the authenticated users. That should get you full access to the drive. You can change it back after you get what you need. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built OS Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8 Pro, CPU Q9650-4.275GHz, E8600 4.5GHz, E6750-3.8GHz Motherboard Evga 780i FTW Memory G.Skill PC2 9600 1200Mhz 5 5 5 15 2T Graphics Card GTX480 Sound Card Asus Xonar D2 Monitor(s) Displays HannsG Screen Resolution 1680X1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Mouse Logitech G9 PSU ThermalTake Toughpower 1000Watt modular Case ThermalTake XaserV Cooling Xigmatek S1283 Hard Drives GSkill Phoenix Pro 120GB SSD Internet Speed T1 |
09 Dec 2010
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Adding further to my confusion, I booted the XPh machine to a new install of XPh, changed the Workgroup to the common one here, rebooted and tried to connect to the Windows 7 machine. It prompted me for a password, which I couldn't understand, as I hadn't put one on the XPh machine yet. But it was looking for the user/pass of the Windows 7 machine! When I entered that I gained access to the shared folders.
Why on earth would a network machine need, or be allowed to have, the credentials of another machine/user? This appears to fly against all common sense.
The Windows 7 folder is set to Everyone. Why is authentication being required at all?
p. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number dell precision t3400 tower OS Win7 Ult. 32bit CPU Pentium 2x2.6 Memory 4G ddr2 Graphics Card nVidia Hard Drives 1TB, 80GB sata Internet Speed 12/2 |
09 Dec 2010
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Hi Chev,
The backup image I want to access is in a folder on the external drive. As it is, I can't even see the folders, let alone access them. Plus, I think my permissions are already lavish. I'm attaching a capture.
Thanks,
p.
Last edited by paul1149; 09 Dec 2010 at 12:37 PM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number dell precision t3400 tower OS Win7 Ult. 32bit CPU Pentium 2x2.6 Memory 4G ddr2 Graphics Card nVidia Hard Drives 1TB, 80GB sata Internet Speed 12/2 |
09 Dec 2010
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8 Pro, San Diego |
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built OS Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8 Pro, CPU Q9650-4.275GHz, E8600 4.5GHz, E6750-3.8GHz Motherboard Evga 780i FTW Memory G.Skill PC2 9600 1200Mhz 5 5 5 15 2T Graphics Card GTX480 Sound Card Asus Xonar D2 Monitor(s) Displays HannsG Screen Resolution 1680X1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Mouse Logitech G9 PSU ThermalTake Toughpower 1000Watt modular Case ThermalTake XaserV Cooling Xigmatek S1283 Hard Drives GSkill Phoenix Pro 120GB SSD Internet Speed T1 |
09 Dec 2010
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I may have discovered why the Windows 7 authentication was required on the XP machine. The user name in both places was the same. So when I entered the name, XP insisted on prepending the Windows 7 machine's name to it. I just changed the user name on the XP machine, and to view the Windows 7 folders now I had to enter the XP login, as it should be. If this is the driver of that error, I would call it a bug. No two users on the same workgroup can have the same name? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number dell precision t3400 tower OS Win7 Ult. 32bit CPU Pentium 2x2.6 Memory 4G ddr2 Graphics Card nVidia Hard Drives 1TB, 80GB sata Internet Speed 12/2 |
09 Dec 2010
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Thanks, Chev, but that appears to be only distantly related to my problem. Neither machine here can access the other, and Windows 7 doesn't even see the linux boot disk machine. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number dell precision t3400 tower OS Win7 Ult. 32bit CPU Pentium 2x2.6 Memory 4G ddr2 Graphics Card nVidia Hard Drives 1TB, 80GB sata Internet Speed 12/2 |
09 Dec 2010
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#8 | | Windows 7 Professional 64 bit Tennessee |
I've never been able to access a Windows machine without creds, at not NT based Windows. Have you allowed Guest access ?? That might help. It's supposed to anyway. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Optiplex OS Windows 7 Professional 64 bit Memory 4096 |
09 Dec 2010
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#9 | | |
I think you nailed the problem. I was just looking at this, and I realized that the boot disk, while on the LAN, is not a member of the Workgroup. Since there is no workgroup facility on the boot disk, somehow Windows 7 has to be loosened up further to allow any LAN machine access. I think the answer is to temporarily switch it to being a Homegroup machine. Let me dig deeper.
p. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number dell precision t3400 tower OS Win7 Ult. 32bit CPU Pentium 2x2.6 Memory 4G ddr2 Graphics Card nVidia Hard Drives 1TB, 80GB sata Internet Speed 12/2 |
09 Dec 2010
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#10 | | |
Still stumped. Even dropping down to a Homegroup didn't open it up. Nor did making Everyone the folder's owner.
I don't think Guest will help. Under Permissions/Add(or edit, not sure)/Advanced, do a Find and you will see that Guest is a member of the Windows 7 machine that hosts the folder to be shared. I think Everyone would be broader than that. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number dell precision t3400 tower OS Win7 Ult. 32bit CPU Pentium 2x2.6 Memory 4G ddr2 Graphics Card nVidia Hard Drives 1TB, 80GB sata Internet Speed 12/2 Win7 and Linux machine won't talk to each other problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:37 AM. | |